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    OK, I was kinda stumped by the shirt at first too. I even looked into the Japanese version of Spiderman and his samurai like mech, leopardon to see if there was a connection there. But the more I think about it the more I think it was their way of simply saying "...And blue". Didn't the official translation say that Yoshi-P said "Red is the main color of Spiderman's outfit and red is the theme of Stormblood." But Spiderman's outfit is red AND blue.

    That along with what everyone is saying about how he gets his powers from something he can then emulate, makes me start to lean more towards a blue mage.

    So in short I think Yoshi-P was trying to tell us "Yeah... Stormblood has Red Mage, but it's also going to have blue."
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    For you youngins, the original Spiderman theme went....

    "Spiderman, Spiderman, does whatever a spider can...."

    He was attacked (bitten) by a monster (a spider) and gained it's powers. Also for the non-comicbook fans there have been over the last few years storylines involving the "web of life". Wouldn't surprise me a bit if it was for Blue Mage and that the lore will involve "shamans tapping into the web of life for power." Hence, Blue Mage.
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    my feelings are more towards Beastmaster, with whips. Flayer (whips) was supposed to be one of the original classes in the game. We already have one pet class in the game and expanding on it is doable. Second reason is that I believe Yoshida is highly against adding Blue Mage in to FFXIV. The complexity of Blue mage will likely make blue mage the only job added when they do add it. It will take far more resources to make blue mage then it will to make any other job.

    If this is a hint, it is likely something about the super hero that relates to a Final Fantasy job. Him talking about the director is likely to throw everyone off.

    While spiderman got his powers from a spider, he is not Rogue who is more likely to be character they would use for Blue Mage. Spiderman slings webs.
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    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...oship_on_the/?

    Yoshida straight up said it has nothing to do with the directors...soo, how is this Samurai related?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iromi View Post
    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...oship_on_the/?

    Yoshida straight up said it has nothing to do with the directors...soo, how is this Samurai related?
    I would honestly wait for a full translation, There are some weird guesses by people. But with what partial translations I'm seeing, he's either saying it doesn't have to do with the director and he knows there are multiple directors to the spiderman films, or the spiderman shirt has nothing to do with jobs. But that's merely a guess so take it with a grain of salt there folks. Salt shakers are your friends in this world of hints and teasers.

    EDIT! Holy crap, I can post again! Stupid post limits...
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    Quote Originally Posted by StarRosie View Post
    I would honestly wait for a full translation, There are some weird guesses by people. But with what partial translations I'm seeing, he's either saying it doesn't have to do with the director and he knows there are multiple directors to the spiderman films, or the spiderman shirt has nothing to do with jobs. But that's merely a guess so take it with a grain of salt there folks. Salt shakers are your friends in this world of hints and teasers.

    EDIT! Holy crap, I can post again! Stupid post limits...
    There is a full translation up in that thread

    Also I can read it and can confirm that is what it says. Anyway though he says to use our imagination haha ^^

    Quote Originally Posted by Radacci View Post
    how does dancer fit into this expansion? ala mhigans dancing with joy at being oppressed by garlemald?
    the "dancer" in stormblood trailer, isn't a dancer, she's a monk, just like derplander; she's not dancing, she's practicing martial art stances...like they do in every single asian martial arts movie, that's ever been made.
    do they need to hint at jobs, in ARR, before they can release it in 5.0? do they need to patch in hints a year in advance?
    Dancer fits in easily. Seeing as how they showed derplander as a monk and the girl in the red dancing, someone offered a really interesting theory - That the Ala Mhigo people taught dancers to fight so the Garleans wouldn't take notice. So while it looks like people are dancing they are actually training them as fighters :P If they did that I would be impressed...it's a pretty rad idea. Far fetched..I dunno, but its creative at least.

    I took martial arts from Jason Frank..he taught me how to dance and fight. It's not that far fetched..lol and as an actress I have had quite a lot of roles where they ask me to dance and fight, like how the girl in red did. It is not unheard of. :P

    And no, she is not a "monk" she is nothing as of right now. Yoshida already said he is not commenting whatsoever on what she is and we will find out in 3.5. Please stop posting false info.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazrah View Post
    I'm gonna go with E) "None of the Above", because...

    A) Sam Raimi suggestion is a bit too much of a stretch,
    you kind of need to stretch it with spiderman...cause there's nothing else obvious that comes to mind.

    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    outside this, redmage is not a blade dps, it's mage dps that have a few melee attack, it was said while the key note, using chain magic, before do a melee attack and finish with chain magic, even in the video it's clear, you wee the redmage mix the two, here i'm talking of a pure physical blade class, it's one of the most iconic stuff of the ff franchise and we haven't get one yet, what it's a big let's down.

    ps: i highly suspect the red mage to be a piercing dps by the way
    if it's caster, it's not going to do piercing damage -for convenience it's going to be int based magic damage, unless it has a bunch of melee combos - but it seems it's only using sword skills as a combo finisher, to jump back.
    well we'll see.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sanghelios View Post
    I guess its Dancer. The strings could mean a whip as weapon.
    that's the biggest leap in logic i have seen in a long time...

    Quote Originally Posted by Rivxkobe View Post
    Samurai.

    Yoshi P has already stated he wants Samurai to be included in the next expansion as the Tank.
    he also said they were considering drk and sam for tank in HW, and decided to make drk as tank "instead"
    he also said, SAM feels more like a DPS, so if they add it, it will likely be DPS.

    Quote Originally Posted by Syll View Post
    Although a melee healer would add something new to the healer role.
    there it is again....hybrid job=DOESN'T WORK IN FFXIV (unless you mean that healer has melee ranged heals, and need to melee-heal tanks, which would kill the healer more times than not)

    Quote Originally Posted by Iromi View Post
    Dancer fits in easily. Seeing as how they showed derplander as a monk and the girl in the red dancing, someone offered a really interesting theory - That the Ala Mhigo people taught dancers to fight so the Garleans wouldn't take notice. So while it looks like people are dancing they are actually training them as fighters :P If they did that I would be impressed...it's a pretty rad idea. Far fetched..I dunno, but its creative at least.

    I took martial arts from Jason Frank..he taught me how to dance and fight. It's not that far fetched..lol and as an actress I have had quite a lot of roles where they ask me to dance and fight, like how the girl in red did. It is not unheard of. :P

    And no, she is not a "monk" she is nothing as of right now. Yoshida already said he is not commenting whatsoever on what she is and we will find out in 3.5. Please stop posting false info.
    That's the history of Kapoeira, so it's not a rad and far fetched idea, and yes it would work....but derplander is monk, and she's fighting him in the same way, so she IS monk - it's the theme of the expansion, and the trailer is an expansion/job trailer, and you have 2 monks fighting in a very monk-like setting (i heard that yoshi even said at the time of the trailer release, that they both were monks, though i have no idea if that's true)
    If you know anything about Chinese and Japanese martial arts, you know that martial artists are always practicing forms through "dance-like motions" that doesn't make them dancers; that's like saying that bodybuilders are athletes, because they warm up by stretching.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radacci View Post
    That's the history of Kapoeira, so it's not a rad and far fetched idea, and yes it would work....but derplander is monk, and she's fighting him in the same way, so she IS monk - it's the theme of the expansion, and the trailer is an expansion/job trailer, and you have 2 monks fighting in a very monk-like setting (i heard that yoshi even said at the time of the trailer release, that they both were monks, though i have no idea if that's true)
    If you know anything about Chinese and Japanese martial arts, you know that martial artists are always practicing forms through "dance-like motions" that doesn't make them dancers; that's like saying that bodybuilders are athletes, because they warm up by stretching.
    It's rad to me..lol opinions are subjective you know? Or are you not aware of that? Seeing as how I worked with trainers to teach me how to do dancing and fighting...it is not far fetched. I literally have done this IRL for movies and TV. Dancer was in FFXI you know, and it worked just fine. I also played dancer in many other MMOs, like Lineage II. Blade Dancer was so much fun.

    Also no, again she is neither confirmed to be monk or anything, and here is the source:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ida_after_nas/

    No comment on whether the female is a dancer or a monk.
    Or you going to somehow try to discredit him saying that? For all we know she could be a random NPC with no job.

    Could you please show me your source where he said she IS monk? I'll wait

    edit: lol also, someone said the main villain is holding a katana?

    "When asked on the weapon Zenos held, Yoshida said that "while the weapons he hold doesn't really relate to his character, but if asked whether he's holding a gunblade then yes he is holding a gunblade." Yoshida told the interviewer to look closely at his artwork later and see if they can notice something from it. "

    Its a gunblade.
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    Last edited by Iromi; 12-25-2016 at 05:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radacci View Post
    there it is again....hybrid job=DOESN'T WORK IN FFXIV (unless you mean that healer has melee ranged heals, and need to melee-heal tanks, which would kill the healer more times than not)
    SCH and WAR are examples of a Healer and Tank who are capable of putting out quite a bit of damage, do you consider them hybrids? If a Healer is already capable of dealing a fair chunk of damage, why must it be magic? why NOT melee?
    Also, a melee class that fills a healer role is hardly a new one. Off of the top of my head there's (of course) DNC in FFXI, Disciple of Khaine in Warhammer Online, or Chanter in Aion
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