Naoki Yoshida's Comment in Regard to Jump Potions/Boost Potions

[VTXShiva]

I am not sure you understand fair. Fair has nothing to do with price gouging. Fair has nothing to do with pricing. It is simply about profits. I do not work in gaming but indirectly a division of retail. I have seen many emails say "It is ok if we don't move X amount, we care about profits. We can get the people who buy to cover the lost sales."

To describe fair for me. Since I don't know actual cost of making a digital product. I base it on similar products that I feel set a baseline. Baseline being set at the cost of a regular game. Then the cost after and content equal to original game (sub and following content).

That is precisely why i asked you to define what is fair. Because in my eyes, the game is complete once the expansion/patch hits (we can argue over a few details, of course but that's not the point i'm making here). All relevant content is there that needs to be.
An immersion-breaking, out-of-lore costume of Y'shtola has little or nothing to do with the game for instance.
the box price is similar to that of other MMOs in the same category.
The sub-price not only is the same, but even has a cheaper alternative to that of other MMOs.
You get trimestrial rewards for being subscribed, a perk other MMOs may not have or have in a different form.
And that's not even going into the price-per-entertainment-hour argument.
The idea that a mount out of 40 or so somehow devalues your subscription is a little on the farfetched end.

You ll see what will happen to the player base if SE doesn't keep the game balanced. hint: it won't be pretty.

The "threat" is cute but you misunderstand. If they do something bad, they'll suffer for it based on market demands etc. If the product isn't good it stops being bought. Of COURSE it's in their best interest to make it balanced, or specifically, a worthwhile product.
But "balanced' is a very vague nebulous and subjective term we can argue over until the end of time.
Moreso the word itself is a term that focuses on the control of ups and downs. It's not "in balance" if everything is good, or everything is bad.

[silentwindfr]

i have a fair point that seems to be missed, don't this jump potion will make the work of the rmt far easier? i means get a jobs 60 with a bit of investement will make faster to gather a large amount of item or gil.
outside the fact that give a "free" pass to 60 is a bad idea, it's one of the action that did over the time kill the mmorpg, people will have less reason to spend time in the game, doing them daily and that all, no community, no real sense to progression of feelinglike the game is rewarding.

the fact to say yes for the new player that want to catch them friend.... but them friend can already play with them. dungeon and else can already be rushed with a 60 for every content of ARR, why put this? outside satisfy lazy player that want fast easy reward without effort.

it will happend it's a fact, but do it will make ff14 better? no, it bring nothing to the game...
do the community will grows with this? no people that do this for play with them friend will play with...them friend only...
do i feel that the msq is too long? maybe, but don't we pay for play? then don't this potion have for goal to reduce our time to play?

anyway, i think yoshida need to rethink this move it's a quite dangerous move that a large part of the community risk to not forgive. people have let go the cash shop but this is a pay to win way that are unneeded and will not do good to FF14.

[Naunet]

1. Renting or buying inventory space in F2P is pretty much standard practice.

Buying, yes. Renting? No. And this is NOT a F2P game.

Though good job ignoring the actual point I was making regarding the likelihood that SE is at all being charitable by offering skip potions.

I repeat myself. What is "fair"? And at what point isn't it just "player" greed?

This is some serious mental gymnastics to turn a company's desire to profit as much as possible back on the consumer and call the consumer greedy. I would give you applause, but honestly, I'm unsettled. What is the threshold at which you are defining "player greed"? Are you willing to play a game where your character is a grey box moving through the world? You don't need a pretty face and clothes, after all.

[Moonlite]

That is precisely why i asked you to define what is fair. Because in my eyes, the game is complete once the expansion/patch hits (we can argue over a few details, of course but that's not the point i'm making here). All relevant content is there that needs to be.
An immersion-breaking, out-of-lore costume of Y'shtola has little or nothing to do with the game for instance.
the box price is similar to that of other MMOs in the same category.
The sub-price not only is the same, but even has a cheaper alternative to that of other MMOs.
You get trimestrial rewards for being subscribed, a perk other MMOs may not have or have in a different form.
And that's not even going into the price-per-entertainment-hour argument.
The idea that a mount out of 40 or so somehow devalues your subscription is a little on the farfetched end.

You and I are not going to agree on fair and that is fine.To me a game is complete if they have no recurring fees. Recurring fees to me mean a certain amount of extra content. Which is fine again I am not sure the overhead of my sub. In the past when WoW first started they had posted some breakdowns of subs and a minimal amount actually made it back into dev and profit.


The sub price I have serious issue with. This might be why you think everything is fine and I feel like I am paying for someone to travel the world and up their tax bracket. This game has a serious sub fee issue based on inventory. Now I have recently read some stuff about how good Blizzard actually is to get th glamour system to not need space. I also understand that the current system SE uses can't be fixed. But then they come out and say "We will let you have more inventory space, but pay for it." They had to know the system would be unfixable in 3.0. So then why did they itemize the game the way they did? Do we need a beast token for every tribe, we need a crystal for every zone and more. Don't charge for the increase in space, itemize the game better or fix the game.

When I was paying a sub in Aion we had the exact same type of veteran rewards. So that isn't something spectacular for a subscription model. They never got as far as 14 but since cash shop vet rewards have been less and less.

All I really want is for someone from SE to go up onstage or email saying. "We have made a financial decision. This won't truly affect your game play.(which is true I don't worry about good/bad players). We have made some poor design decisions and fixing them costs to much. This is a win win for SE."

[MilesSaintboroguh]

All I really want is for someone from SE to go up onstage or email saying. "We have made a financial decision. This won't truly affect your game play.(which is true I don't worry about good/bad players). We have made some poor design decisions and fixing them costs to much. This is a win win for SE."

People want this to happen, but it never will. Truth hurts and when people get hurt, they won't take it lying down. This is why PR exists.

[NolLacnala]

I would like to see people against this idea to make alts and go through the MSQ from ARR to SB.

K, done. Times seven, if you count my main. And I work a full time job. Next excuse, please.

[KrystaUzuki]

If jump/leveling potions are added then another Hall like Hall of the Novice except more advanced should be created. One of each potion should be included with Stormblood and if they are used the Halls should be mandatory before entering anything else. The new players who use this should go through exercises for levels 15, 30, 50 and 60. Furthermore, a video about 5-10 minutes should be made, summarizing the story up to the start of Stormblood.

[ErryK]

K, done. Times seven, if you count my main. And I work a full time job. Next excuse, please.

Wow, you have SB already? Cool.

[Katlyna]

I see all kinds of complaints about this system. Something you all have to remember about product development is that nothing is free. In order to implement and test a "jump potion" system, considerable developer time must be spent planning the system, implementing the system and testing it to ensure it works correctly. Now often times these features can be folded into the core product (or expansion) updates and made "freely" available. Other times the decision is more complicated. Instead the developers and product leads are left with a tougher question. They plan their main development cycle and find the schedule is full, but they still want X feature. The option then is to separately charge for X feature and higher extra temporary help to implement the feature (or justify the overtime spent implementing). Often times this is the only way to justify features which are truly "optional". I've worked in software development for over 10 years and we have to make these decisions all the time. Again its as simple as every feature has some cost. It either shoves out some other feature of an expansion/patch, makes something else cost optional money, or itself becomes an optional cost.

Feel free to complain about the decision SE made... just keep in mind nothing is free.

[ThatPlayer]

i have a fair point that seems to be missed, don't this jump potion will make the work of the rmt far easier?

Depends on how much money they make from this game already. For big MMOs like WoW dropping money isn't an issue because they'll make it back almost instantly. For other games with money gates, they usually just steal accounts or spam on free trials. But as long as they can spam the chat, the level of the character really doesn't matter.

I don't see why they would need a max level character.