Naoki Yoshida's Comment in Regard to Jump Potions/Boost Potions

[Belhi]

I hope you like other Square Enix games!

You think the server upgrades we are getting are being paid for with good wishes and happy thoughts?

SE invests plenty in FF14. 36 million roughly for Stormblood if the rumors are true.

[Moonlite]

You think the server upgrades we are getting are being paid for with good wishes and happy thoughts?

SE invests plenty in FF14. 36 million roughly for Stormblood if the rumors are true.

Yeah and how much of the cash shop and subs disappeared from game? The supposed 36 million, was it dependent on increasing cash shop sales of jump potions?

I swear half the people on the forums have never worked for a corporation or understand how they work. Try to screw the customer over as much as possible and hope to get away with it. Basically any info you see should be viewed, is how are they screwing me and how much money can they stuff in their pockets.

[Belhi]

Yeah and how much of the cash shop and subs disappeared from game? The supposed 36 million, was it dependent on increasing cash shop sales of jump potions?

I swear half the people on the forums have never worked for a corporation or understand how they work. Try to screw the customer over as much as possible and hope to get away with it. Basically any info you see should be viewed, is how are they screwing me and how much money can they stuff in their pockets.

Considering the Jump Potions, when and if they are added, are slated to be brought in after Stormblood is released, probably they weren't factored into it.

Your an extremely cynical person. Not without some cause but the flipside here is it hasn't been too long since SE got badly burned from screwing over their playerbase with 1.0. That cost most of the people in charge their jobs.

The logic for the Jump Potions is sound even though I don't agree with all the aspects of how they plan currently to implement it. I'm a yes but with conditions person in regards to this whole Jump Potion thing. I see the need but I also see that there is a big risk of screwing up royally if they do this wrong.

However on the original point I was making that you Quoted, plenty of the money FF14 makes does go back into the production of the game. The person I quoted implied all FF14's earnings go to making other SE games. I am making the point that they are clearly reinvesting in this game otherwise we wouldn't have gotten the EU datacenters and we wouldn't have gotten the Server upgrades. Those things aren't cheap to implement.

Probably paid for by about £7.69 a month from all the subscriptions... Million quid a month rolling in easy. Plus box sales. Plus expansion sales. Plus existing cash shop sales. How much money do they need?

Please read the above. I didn't say the Jump Potions are paying for the server upgrade. I have stated previously in this thread that my preference would be one free Jump and Story Potion included in the Stormblood expansion. That would make it a turn off to RMT while still fulfilling it's purpose. Giving new players a means to skip content and then attempting to discourage them from doing so by putting it behind a paywall undermines the point of having a Jump Potion in the first place. I think any additional Potion's should have a cost to discourage people using them for everything and infact I am not completely convinced they are even needed at all beyond new player catchup.

Fundimentally there is a need for something like the Jump Potions but they need to be handled well. Just copying over the Chinese and Korean version isn't a good idea as there are distinct cultural attitudes to that which vary between the communities. Again, I would point to the WoW system as one FF14 should probably take notes from. It is a very smooth and effective set up and serves it's purpose admirably. Done well and the system will only ever have to be tweeked for new expansions as the core mechanisms will always be applicable and the issue won't have to be revisited in a major way again.

[Jandor]

I swear half the people on the forums have never worked for a corporation or understand how they work. Try to screw the customer over as much as possible and hope to get away with it.

Finally! Someone who sees it how it is .

It isn't about the best deal for the users, its about squeezing as much out as possible.
If causing excruciating pain to users increased profits you could guarantee Yoshi would be on stage talking about how excruciating pain for all users would enable them to release more content per patch.

We are just sacks full of money waiting to be plundered in SE's eyes.

[Rufalus]

Finally! Someone who sees it how it is .

It isn't about the best deal for the users, its about squeezing as much out as possible.
If causing excruciating pain to users increased profits you could guarantee Yoshi would be on stage talking about how excruciating pain for all users would enable them to release more content per patch.

We are just sacks full of money waiting to be plundered in SE's eyes.

Business is business, maximising profits, it's a nasty dog eat dog world. But it doesn't mean all the employees are malevolent. FF XIV is a special game because Yoshida and the team really care about the fans and care about their craft. They love to delight us and meet us at events. If he feels he let us down he is extremely apologetic and they work their asses off to provide the best product they can, costing themselves some sanity with many consecutive weeks of overtime for the Heavensward release.

[Austherus]

If he feels he let us down he is extremely apologetic and they work their asses off to provide the best product they can, costing themselves some sanity with many consecutive weeks of overtime for the Heavensward release.

They work their asses off because it's their job.

[SiriusCrescent]

They work their asses off because it's their job.

This completely offtopic, but lol are you naive.

I've seen plenty of games before where the developers leave the game to literally rot away while they take all them money they can get - at least in that regard FF XIV is far above the rest.

[Austherus]

This completely offtopic, but lol are you naive.

I've seen plenty of games before where the developers leave the game to literally rot away while they take all them money they can get - at least in that regard FF XIV is far above the rest.

People do that to every kind of company/enterprise, I don't know how this has anything to do with what I said. Yoshida is doing what he is doing because right now keeping the game alive is the best option. If one day they did their math and discovered that "leaving the game to rot and take all the money they can get" was a better option, they would do it.

You are the naive one if you think there's any other relationship between Square employees and it's consumers other than a commercial relationship.

[Moonlite]

Business is business, maximising profits, it's a nasty dog eat dog world. But it doesn't mean all the employees are malevolent. FF XIV is a special game because Yoshida and the team really care about the fans and care about their craft. They love to delight us and meet us at events. If he feels he let us down he is extremely apologetic and they work their asses off to provide the best product they can, costing themselves some sanity with many consecutive weeks of overtime for the Heavensward release.

Most employee's feel bad when they have to do stuff that make customers experience suffer. They generally get no benefit from it. Some of the development team might be high enough for profit sharing bonuses though.

Now hears the point you make that amuses me. You say apologetic and work extra. Where are the apologies and the extra work over the LIES (yes I said lies) about housing. Where is the apology and extra work and not a cash grab over retainer/inventory space? People also say SE has invested back in the game but all we hear is not enough staff and server limitations. I think you are confusing current ffxiv to the pre ARR, or WoW pre activision.

[fantasticm]

You think the server upgrades we are getting are being paid for with good wishes and happy thoughts?

SE invests plenty in FF14. 36 million roughly for Stormblood if the rumors are true.

Of course they do! It would be inconceivable if Square Enix allowed a successful cash cow to fail.