Naoki Yoshida's Comment in Regard to Jump Potions/Boost Potions

[Lyraele]

My fellow mentors in the network were talking today about denying any sort of help and kick in the dungeon to everyone they suspect using this kind of monetary cheating. I know I'll cancel my status as a mentor the moment this thing comes to the game. I'll not help anyone nor play together with anyone because they are lazy but have money to pay their way up without the same time and sacrifices we have made.

How can you consider this to be appropriate? It seems like that's not in keeping with the wall of text I am told S-E gives you when you agree to be a mentor. And it's certainly not keeping with the generally accepted meaning of the word (from https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mentor): "Today, we use the word mentor for anyone who is a positive, guiding influence in another (usually younger) person's life.". "Mentors" that feel that way should ponder why they are mentors. Because the attitude on display is an affront and an embarrassment.

[Moonlite]

I have to wonder if the people complaining solely based on it being sold (instead of free) make a habit of telling their boss "Nah, I don't need more money, I have enough." because if they don't...... there's a word for that.

It is amusing I work for a company the bosses decide they needed to increase profits over the years. Turns out they reached a point where sales are greatly suffering. They are now collecting unemployment and seeking work elsewhere. Consumers have a limit, you act like people should just keep paying whatever the price increase is or however it affects service.

[DrStiles]

The novice network doesn't exist to help new players. It has always been a circlejerk where the "mentors" stroke their own egos. Nothing new here.

[Imoen]

I have to wonder if the people complaining solely based on it being sold (instead of free) make a habit of telling their boss "Nah, I don't need more money, I have enough." because if they don't...... there's a word for that.

That isn't the same thing at all.. not even a little bit. So no, that would not make anyone hypocritical.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Without trying to sound unpleasant, that sounds like it's a problem they've made for themselves. I'm not sure why we should have to pay for the pleasure of fixing their mistakes. In my experience, as well, developers tend to... well, "creatively oversimplify" might be the most diplomatic term, when it comes to explaining why they can't do things players want.

It would cut into the Stormblood budget or at the very least, delay the expansion pack release if they were to completely redo the quest system. Would probably not make Square or its investors very happy.

[FinalWolf]

I have to wonder if the people complaining solely based on it being sold (instead of free) make a habit of telling their boss "Nah, I don't need more money, I have enough." because if they don't...... there's a word for that.

Because some people actually give a fuck about this game that's why we're "complaining"

[DrStiles]

I have to wonder if the people complaining solely based on it being sold (instead of free) make a habit of telling their boss "Nah, I don't need more money, I have enough." because if they don't...... there's a word for that.

Except that Yoshida has explicitly stated himself that these items are meant to ease new players into the game and allow them to "catch up". So on top of the initial cost of the game, and a subscription, they are expected to buy these as well?

Why? When such things come free with expansions in other MMOs.

[Remus]

Because some people actually give a fuck about this game that's why we're "complaining"

I can understand complaining but certain things are a necessary evil. We are in a generation where there are so many games to pick from and you need to try your best to get new players playing your game and jump potions is that. If they don't do it they will continue to see a decline in subs. Don't get me wrong I'm sure there are still new players coming in now but I honestly don't think it's all that much. If they don't add it they could trim old quests but then that will lead to delays for patches. I would rather they just do the jump potion than waste time on old pieces of content which could be spent on making new content and the expansion even better.

I can understand why some people wouldn't want it but why not instead when people jump guide them and help them a bit and actually give the community a good reputation which can encourage their friends to join. The way some people are acting now and being hostile to people who jump really isn't helping and is really putting the community in a bad light currently, I mean imagine if someone new saw this news and how happy they were then saw what the community was saying? Honestly if it was me I would step away from this and never come back because it looks really bad. I have told some people that they are potentially planning on adding a jump potion and they are glad they can jump in now without worrying about all the quests they haven't done.

[StarRosie]

Except that Yoshida has explicitly stated himself that these items are meant to ease new players into the game and allow the to "catch up". So on top of the initial cost of the game, and a subscription, they are expected to buy these as well?

Why? When such things come free with expansions in other MMOs.

Don't the ARR MSQs have boosted experience when you own HW? Why not boost it further if you have HW and SB? And boost the HW MSQs cause you have SB. There are smarter ways to handle the "catching up" problem and Hall of the Novice could be expanded to help ease new players in better.

[Legewiel]

sub charge?

Sub is what make this game great, go try a F2P and you'll see what is getting charged...

*The inventory
they'll be adding more inv space (I'd prefer a glamour book like WOW) but it's easy to see what they didn't do and overlook a lot of QOL they added to the game, wow don't have that, there if you want something you need to pray that someone makes an addon for it...

*cash shop
All mmo have that

*they charge to get on full servers
What u suggest? block people from entering it so if you have a friend there you'll never be able to play with him? allow anyone to enter it and create a huge a queue?

*free transfer
No game provides that at all... While i agree with you that we could get a free transfer a year, but just free transfer is crazy... and could create things like go in a server that an item is cheaper, buy gil, buy that item go back to server, sell this itens and double the gil bought.

*vet rewards
Will totally agree with you on that