Getting WHM on Par

[Exiled_Tonberry]

it's not farfetched for WHM to DPS even in the old rpgs they would DPS with aero,dia,holy when not healing. The trait would just bring them more on par with SCH who can currently DPS 100% of the time while eos/selene handle the healing. This trait would essentially allow the WHM to do the same. The only reason WHM didn't DPS much in FFXI is that they suffered from MP issues but trust me if MP wasn't a issue they would be DPSing too lol.

I get where you're coming from, and I wouldn't mind WHM taking advantage of their strong dps skills either, but in the end I'm looking for a strong healing experience with WHM. I want skills that solidifies us as a very strong healer, not just an AST without buffs.

[Brightshadow]

I get where you're coming from, and I wouldn't mind WHM taking advantage of their strong dps skills either, but in the end I'm looking for a strong healing experience with WHM. I want skills that solidifies us as a very strong healer, not just an AST without buffs.

Stronger heals won't make WHM on par with AST nor SCH the main niche of the other two is what pushes them beyond WHM. WHM utility is only AOE stun that's about it. If SE does want WHM to be the "pure" healer then perhaps they should get a DPS pet and make them the reverse SCH lol but that seems a bit weird for WHM or give them some good AOE reliable buffs like haste/bravery but that's going into AST camp. Honestly WHM is in a bit of a pickle the only way I see them being on-par is the cleric stance trait because it's something different and gives WHM an additional niche.

[Shurrikhan]

I get where you're coming from, and I wouldn't mind WHM taking advantage of their strong dps skills either, but in the end I'm looking for a strong healing experience with WHM. I want skills that solidifies us as a very strong healer, not just an AST without buffs.

Unless you're willing to use more set up, I'm not sure that's going to be possible, given that an AST itself is a WHM carbon copy apart from having traded out Asylum and Assize for buffs. If you willing to use more setup though, I feel like its elements could play a far greater part in its toolkit. That's pretty much an untapped treasure trove at the moment, with only unreliable and non-bankable 20% chance procs to show for that huge alleged component of Conjury.

Alternatively, you have other traditional skills, such as Re-raise or Shell, but you'd have to find a way for the first's niche advantage not to be overwhelming and the second to be distinct from the simple % Def/mDef bonus of Protect and flat absorbs (Nocturnal Field, Galvanize, Stoneskin), not just in tooltip description but in actual use.