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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    When I started playing there wasnt even a glamour system at all.
    Because I mention sometimes they run out of stock Ive seen this recently are if you aren't a crafter you have to bug a friend and ask them for some. I just really dont follow the problem with instant glamour wherever u are in the game whatever level, like some people would prob glam something new every day some people take it that serious. So why not lets make it as easy as possible, and with going to 1 they made it even easier than it was in the past. So why not just get rid of the whole system I highly doubt that prism are actually needed in the actually development of making it be possible to glam your stuff, I think its more so that it was something crafters could sell.
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    If it got rid of job restrictions I'd be all for it. I'm all for it now, but I'd really love to wear my Alchemist Coat and Skirt on other classes and there's some combinations that look really great but are impossible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    Well swtor must have the best system then u just pay in game money to glam over anything u want if it fits your class, just really doesnt make sense to do it otherwise. What exactly are who exactly are prisms helping in the game its just a bit of an annoyance
    I think the best system is from Rift :
    a second character sheet
    a "book" that keeps all the glam of all the armour you got
    no class restriction
    glam shared by all the charac of your account

    This system was designed by Vogue xD
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    C'était en fait SE qui survolait Ishgard sur une liasse de billets

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    People don't know how to take criticism anymore, and bad play is rewarded with with a coddling mentality. Yes, this is a casual game for the most part - that doesn't mean people need to walk on eggshells in fear of getting reported for pointing out things. This whole 'please don't say anything even slightly negative' mentality that we seem to be going towards and the devs seemingly pushing towards it is creating a disturbing trend.

  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celef View Post
    I think the best system is from Rift :
    a second character sheet
    a "book" that keeps all the glam of all the armour you got
    no class restriction
    glam shared by all the charac of your account

    This system was designed by Vogue xD
    I havent played rift but , it sounds like a good system, I just wasnt use to a game tellin me hey you have to have prisms and need to be a certain level before u can even wear what u want. When I found out about this inconvenience I right away decided to level to 50 just so I could glam and went back to msq later. Like glamour is such a big part of the game I know that for some new players it may have been a deal breaker for them.
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    What exactly would be a better system? Spending a flat gil amount to glamour?

    They're not going to let you glamour for free if that's what you are wanting. This system is fine as it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZhaneX View Post
    God that'd be nice. I really want to have different glamours for my PLD and DRK, or BRD and MCH, but since they share gear it's impossible except when wearing Artifact Gear. Which happens all of, what, once in an expansion cycle? At least if I want to keep them all reasonably well-geared.
    Quote Originally Posted by ErdrickLoto View Post
    YES. I'd love this system. Part of my greatest woes about getting DRK to level 50 is that I'll have to share its glamours with PLD... I'm surprised that this isn't common in games that have what you wear affect your appearance already, tbh.
    Right? Like this is my Dark Knight set. It's all edgy. But it doesn't suit my PLD, like, at all, xD.

    As for the lore argument. Frankly, not everything needs to be tied into the lore. I do like how FFXIV does attempt to tie together plenty of things, but not every single gameplay feature needs to be roped into it. I'm hopeful the talks of relic armour might allow us to boost the stats of existing items. While that wouldn't solve being able to glamour different sets to each job, it would at least remove the cumbersome way we glamour stuff now.

    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    What exactly would be a better system? Spending a flat gil amount to glamour?

    They're not going to let you glamour for free if that's what you are wanting. This system is fine as it is.
    Why not? Most MMOs do. Blade & Soul, you literally just equip what you'd like to wear and bam, that's your "glamour." It's not like glamouring actually costs anything. With the bear minimum of gathering, you can have a retainer get mats and pay 200 gil for clear crystals. That's isn't even chump change levels.
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    Last edited by Bourne_Endeavor; 11-19-2016 at 03:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heliantheae View Post
    If it got rid of job restrictions I'd be all for it. I'm all for it now, but I'd really love to wear my Alchemist Coat and Skirt on other classes and there's some combinations that look really great but are impossible.
    The Chinese cash shop allows you to wear lv.1 replicas of each DoH and DoL AF. I can see this eventually coming in our version of the game
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Right? Like this is my Dark Knight set. It's all edgy. But it doesn't suit my PLD, like, at all, xD.

    As for the lore argument. Frankly, not everything needs to be tied into the lore. I do like how FFXIV does attempt to tie together plenty of things, but not every single gameplay feature needs to be roped into it. I'm hopeful the talks of relic armour might allow us to boost the stats of existing items. While that wouldn't solve being able to glamour different sets to each job, it would at least remove the cumbersome way we glamour stuff now.



    Why not? Most MMOs do. Blade & Soul, you literally just equip what you'd like to wear and bam, that's your "glamour." It's not like glamouring actually costs anything. With the bear minimum of gathering, you can have a retainer get mats and pay 200 gil for clear crystals. That's isn't even chump change levels.
    There's literally no reason for it, and while the glamour market isn't as booming as it was with grades, it would still remove a lot of people's income.

    Being able to just glamour willy nilly for free is dumb. "Most mmos" use a resource for it. WoW in particular can cost 200+ gold just to change your outfit, we have it good honestly.
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    Heck, GW2 you had to buy cash shop items to change your gear appearance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    They certainly work as it is, but it's one of my least favourite systems that accomplish the same thing. I think the costume system in Wildstar worked well - speak to vendor, set costume, the no matter what gear you change, your costume stays the same. Guild Wars 2's system is pretty much the same as here IIRC, but fewer types of prisms and unlocked outfits. WoW's system works alright, with unlocked transmogs and you apply them to your gear at a vendor. IMO Wildstar > GW2 > WoW > FFXIV
    Haven't played Wildstar much, but I do know that their glamour system is pretty good. Having it apply to an item slot instead of a piece of gear is nice.
    GW2's system of unlocking gear and weapon skins is great, as well as being able to change your look everywhere. But outside of the full outfits, I didn't really like how transmutation charges were obtained, it kinda discouraged me from changing my looks. WoW has a similar system to GW2 now, with some restrictions on unlocking appearances, and just a gold cost to change appearances.

    In my opinion, the near-perfect system would use:
    • GW2's unlocking system
    • WoW's transmog UI (GW2's UI works too)
    • WoW's ability to apply appearances to a spec/job. (For example, my mage has one set of gear, but looks different in each of the 3 specs)
    • XIV's prisms, as it allows crafters to make a bit of gil, if they're not into high end crafting (although a simple gil cost would probably be better, since it'd be a gil sink).

    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    How is this lazy tho , think of the new player that has to wear that hideous gear before they hit level 50 without the prism system
    Leveling doesn't take ages, and new players will be upgrading their gear pretty often, along the way. I don't really see most of them spending gil on glamours to change their appearance, when it's only for like an hour or so.

    Besides, the prisms allow the lower end of crafters to make a bit of gil, so it'd be a bad thing to remove it. Prisms even make sense lore wise, particularly when it comes to imps, who seem to glamour themselves to look different.
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