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  1. #201
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    If people intend to skip content, they do not subscribe for longer, so thus, SE must make money somehow off those who do not intend to subscribe for longer times, to complete the already expansive MSQ.
    That's faulty reasoning, because it implies that every person who would skip would otherwise still stick to the game. That's not necessarily the case - some might quit the game if the mountain to climb becomes too much and they don't enjoy the climb. That would lose SE both the money from the skip and the money from the sub.

    It still is a convenience feature, but don't think it's there to cross-subsidize anything :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genaxx View Post
    Why is everyone speculating how the potions will work when we already know how they work?

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...umping-Potions
    Ugh, that's truly horrible. It sounds like a free to play game.

    SE needs to understand, subscriptions are on the line, if they screw up, they really screw up.
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  3. #203
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genaxx View Post
    Why is everyone speculating how the potions will work when we already know how they work?

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...umping-Potions
    Can confirm people will quit if this happens. What a bummer.
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  4. #204
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanelis View Post
    And how is this a convenience ? I don't see how skipping content in a video game you actually bought to play is a convenience.

    Maybe it is quite common in bad MMOs where the content is poorly designed, which make players want to avoid said content (but maybe then they ll avoid the game too, so it is a double edged sword).
    It is convenient because it is jumping you to 60 without having to do most of anything before it. That is convenience if your goal is to catch up with your friends, that is time you did not have to spend to catch up to the most current content in the game. That is the very definition of convenience. So naturally you should be charged to use that convenience.
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  5. #205
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    Ugh, that's truly horrible. It sounds like a free to play game.

    SE needs to understand, subscriptions are on the line, if they screw up, they really screw up.
    Maybe they want it to become free to play
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  6. #206
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    I don't mind the story jump Potion, but for gods sake please, most of the player base is bad enough as it is, we don't need more people skipping to level 60.
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    Devs Panda to the ff11 players too much
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanelis View Post
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    This MMO is a story-based MMO, there are people who wish to hit cap without going through 200+ quests. This is to aid those people at the cost of money, for a convenience of not having to do 200+ necessary quests, when all those people really want to do is just the endgame, and not the leveling process. It's stupid, but it helps SE make money.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
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    I'm not saying it as fact, but I'm using it as an example of someone who purchases it. The point is, is there is a large pool of people who don't want to go through 200+ quests of the game, so I can see why this exists and how it would possibly play out. I can see how it can do harm, but it's a double edged sword, they will lose people and they will gain people. Only time will tell.
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  9. #209
    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by RukiaFae View Post
    Maybe they want it to become free to play
    Maybe they don't want my subscription $$. I'd be disappointed, but that would be when I go back to single player games. I would not have started this if it had been free to play, and I sure as hell won't stick around if it goes free to play.
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  10. #210
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    This MMO is a story-based MMO, there are people who wish to hit cap without going through 200+ quests. This is to aid those people at the cost of money, for a convenience of not having to do 200+ necessary quests, when all those people really want to do is just the endgame, and not the leveling process. It's stupid, but it helps SE make money.
    Do you trully believe people play FFXIV for the quality of its endgame ? Every metrics show the turnover on FFXIV is very high because of poor player retention.

    Also, in a game where you have to buy a box to play and pay a reccuring subscription cost, the publisher of said game has a duty to make sure the content remains balanced after expansions rolls out, especially in a game based on vertical progress. There sure will be a problem SE will have to adress due to the high verticality of the game, but as I said, the solution isn't a content skipping potion. The solution to what you're actually saying is simply to let players play the game and hit the cap without making the older MSQ mandatory.

    It is convenient because it is jumping you to 60 without having to do most of anything before it. That is convenience if your goal is to catch up with your friends, that is time you did not have to spend to catch up to the most current content in the game. That is the very definition of convenience. So naturally you should be charged to use that convenience.
    That's a poor marketing argument. You know it, SE knows it (else we'd already have that potion in the game) and the would be new players know it too.
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    Last edited by Stanelis; 11-16-2016 at 02:53 AM.

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