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    cetrei's Avatar
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    Ferin Melchiott
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    Ultros
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    Warrior Lv 90

    2 questions regarding Healer DPS

    So I'm mostly a SCH main, and I noticed that most of the time playing as SCH I was just pressing 1 for Broil until my eyes fell out of my sockets.

    So now I have 2 questions:
    1. In your personal opinion, which healer is the most satisfying to DPS as? WHM seems obvious, it hurls rocks and gusts of wind at people and you get to spam Holy, but at the same time AST seems like it has a similar deal with its malefics and Gravity, as well as the jolly fun of enhanced arrow or balance.

    2. Whats the best way to DPS as SCH? Should I be making sure that all of my DoTs are up the whole duration of long fights? Or should I just be pressing 1 all the time?
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    Judge_Xero's Avatar
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    Divine Gate
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    Exodus
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    Marauder Lv 60
    1: SCH is the most satisfying healer to DPS as because you can contribute so much utility while never leaving Clerics.

    2: DOTS are by far the highest potency per cast providing you get most of the duration of the DOT.

    Bio - 240
    Miasma - 320
    Bio 2 - 350
    Shadow flare - 250
    Aero - 200
    Miasma II on 3 targets - 210 (70 each)
    Blizzard 2 - 50 per target

    Broil - 170
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    Last edited by Judge_Xero; 11-14-2016 at 09:00 AM. Reason: A couple wrong potencies.

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    Cynfael's Avatar
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by cetrei View Post
    So I'm mostly a SCH main, and I noticed that most of the time playing as SCH I was just pressing 1 for Broil until my eyes fell out of my sockets.

    So now I have 2 questions:
    1. In your personal opinion, which healer is the most satisfying to DPS as? WHM seems obvious, it hurls rocks and gusts of wind at people and you get to spam Holy, but at the same time AST seems like it has a similar deal with its malefics and Gravity, as well as the jolly fun of enhanced arrow or balance.

    2. Whats the best way to DPS as SCH? Should I be making sure that all of my DoTs are up the whole duration of long fights? Or should I just be pressing 1 all the time?
    Broil is supposed to be your filler between DoT refreshes; you're only prioritizing Broil if you're attacking targets that die too quickly for your DoTs to be worth casting.

    1. I think WHM AoE is the most satisfying in terms of burst, but like Xero said, SCH is extremely well-suited to filling a support DPS role while multi-tasking. Also, SCH DPS is, of course, easily sustainable MP-wise.

    2. DoTs. DoTs. DoTs. Broil when you don't need to cast anything else. DoTs about to fall off? Reapply unless the target will die before they can tick enough to be worth it.
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    Sir Rawrz
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    The rule of thumb for SCH dots is if they will tick for at least 15 seconds, go for it. If you are looking to weave energy drain with bio/aero, 6 seconds is a dps gain.
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    Estellise Valesti
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    Adamantoise
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    White Mage Lv 70
    I personally find WHM to be the most fun. I'm pretty bias though, and I'm not sure if I would classify it as satisfaction.

    Though I do get a feeling of euphoria when I hit every member of a large group of mobs with Aero III. People love Holy, but Aero III is my favourite drug.
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    Keisero Starborn
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    Faerie
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Astrologian is my main job but even I can admit it's got the least fun DPS "rotation". 3 DoTs (one of which isn't unique to the job) and either a ghetto Holy or a prettier, slightly weaker version of Stone III. At least the other Healers have oGCD damage abilities...
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    Estellise Valesti
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    Adamantoise
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rennies View Post
    Astrologian is my main job but even I can admit it's got the least fun DPS "rotation". 3 DoTs (one of which isn't unique to the job) and either a ghetto Holy or a prettier, slightly weaker version of Stone III. At least the other Healers have oGCD damage abilities...
    Gravity is kinda pretty. But yeah, AST is sorta "meh" with DPS.
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    Reigne Bo
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    Omega
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    Scholar Lv 70

    Scholars

    I have recently joined a static group on my server toprogress from a10s onwards. Until now I have healed new content. Now I suddenly found that the most important job I have is to dps. I feel way out of my depth , I have so many spells. Ok in a10s first I got shadowflre, then aero, bio2,miasma, bio, mash, macro embrace on tank, broil, fey wind on cd, in between dot uptime galvanize tank buster sacred soil, lustrate, oh I forgot blizard 2 on adds, eye for an eye on tank virus on boss. Dont know if I left anything out.As offheal press the switches. Please let me be a healer with a a few dps spells I feel so stressed Im wanting to stop playing it. Statics wont let me heal on my server . This is not fun for me. I know I am not the only scholar that would like to be a healer. Oh I do admire you pro dps scholars but I do like healing. I just got too much to do 2 jobs with lots of spells.
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    Dia Beetus
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    Behemoth
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    Paladin Lv 80
    I never really felt like much of a healer as scholar. Sure i put up shields and indom as needed...but i felt like i cast way more dots and broil than i did heal.

    WHM has assize, aero 3 and Holy so its great fun balancing cleric stance with healing and regen.
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    Estellise Valesti
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    Adamantoise
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Feyona View Post
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    I'm sorry to say, but the way SCH is you'll always end up being the off-healer.

    SCH branches off a DPS classes so it has a large number of DPS abilities, with a good number of utility options. This coupled with the fact that they have a fairy that doesn't get effected by your own GCD or Cleric Stance, you have a perfect Job to take up the role as a DPS/Healer. Not saying that SCH aren't good at healing, they are, but the are the best in the off-healer role. It's like WAR. WAR are really good as the MT, but they make the best OT.

    If you want the heal I would suggest looking at AST or WHM.
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