2 questions regarding Healer DPS

[Feyona]

I understand your frustration with wanting to heal, but the way healing is designed in FFXIV, it's a job that constantly balances decision making based on finding windows in which you can DPS between windows of heavy damage. To maximize your toolkit, you and your other healer have to recognize that SCH's tools facilitate maximizing these DPS windows. It's a joint effort in which both healers have to understand this and attempt to DPS as much as possibly by abusing the very powerful fairy cooldowns.[/QUOTE] So strange I have recently been kicked out of a static not on my healing but for my dps abilities. Nothing wrong with my healing, as I have usually done more healing than my ast co heal. So now I did wmg a9s much easir to do dps with wmg and faster. Scolar takes so long to put dots on. Scholar is faster at healing wmg is faster dps.._its so illogical tome that scholar is the dps cos I did more dps on my wmg without hardly trying.

[VanilleFang]

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I'm sorry to say, but the way SCH is you'll always end up being the off-healer.

SCH branches off a DPS classes so it has a large number of DPS abilities, with a good number of utility options. This coupled with the fact that they have a fairy that doesn't get effected by your own GCD or Cleric Stance, you have a perfect Job to take up the role as a DPS/Healer. Not saying that SCH aren't good at healing, they are, but the are the best in the off-healer role. It's like WAR. WAR are really good as the MT, but they make the best OT.

If you want the heal I would suggest looking at AST or WHM.

[Feyona]

[QUOTE=VanilleFang;3934041]I'm sorry to say, but the way SCH is you'll always end up being the off-healer.

SCH branches off a DPS classes so it has a large number of DPS abilities, with a good number of utility options. This coupled with the fact that they have a fairy that doesn't get effected by your own GCD or Cleric Stance, you have a perfect Job to take up the role as a DPS/Healer. Not saying that SCH aren't good at healing, they are, but the are the best in the off-healer role. It's like WAR. WAR are really good as the MT, but they make the best OT.

If you want the heal I would suggest looking at AST or WHM.[/QUOTE I have got wmg and ast, to me scholar is the class I want to play as healer. It looks like I dont have a choice of what I would like to play. Im still hoping my opinion matters though.

[Rawrz]

I have got wmg and ast, to me scholar is the class I want to play as healer. It looks like I dont have a choice of what I would like to play. Im still hoping my opinion matters though.

You can make it work, but you can't have a traditional coheal. You won't be optimal but as long as you're clearing content and having fun with the experience, do it.

Please try to get more familiar with your dps skills as well. This will strengthen your understanding of rate of damage and will really help you become an even better healer.

[Gemina]

If you want the heal I would suggest looking at AST or WHM.

Or ask for large pulls. Of course, this applies to mostly four-man content where SCH has no choice but to main heal, and AoE is sufficient for said large pull. But it is still a way to heal more as SCH. Otherwise yup, SCH is shoe horned into the OH role. They can MH at the cost of a lot of their utility, which is less than optimal if there already is a WHM or AST in the group and they are on their feet.

[Sanogo]

Try out Astro, either as main or offhealer. You have 3 dots and you can run same encounters as sch when u are more familiar with them.

[Llynd]

Thank you Vanillefang for being so right.
I'm still confused when people still think sch is a pure healer x) How can we possibly forget the fact that for the first 30 lvl we were dps ?

[bswpayton]

Whm for sure I just find dots boring by the time , you put dots on trash with scholar , in that same amount of time those adds will be dead with holy from whm.

[Llynd]

Whm for sure I just find dots boring by the time , you put dots on trash with scholar , in that same amount of time those adds will be dead with holy from whm.

You're overestimating Holy. Or underestimating sch's dots. It wont take us much time to dot+bane. Also, holy takes way too much mana to be relevant.

[GraumSenpai]

My group is doing a WHM/AST setup with my as AST off heal... it was a tough conversion period as main healer has been what I do for about a year... but I actually really like AST as a DPS. It doesn't require you to be melee range to do AoE attacks, it has enough single target damage to keep your DPS numbers high on the boss, it has a butt ton of regen for yourself, it can keep your party DPS buffed, it can keep your main healer sufficient in mana, and has enough utility to be a proper off healer. Tho DPS does take a nasty hit if you need to do some extra healing since DoTs arent all that potent and outside of lightspeed and swiftcast, you have no instant casts for DPS or party heals, so that hurts... but I'm loving the AST off heal life so far... low stress, very straight forward... just recognise whats coming next and prepare your DoTs or your shields and Disable.