2 questions regarding Healer DPS

[cetrei]

So I'm mostly a SCH main, and I noticed that most of the time playing as SCH I was just pressing 1 for Broil until my eyes fell out of my sockets.

So now I have 2 questions:
1. In your personal opinion, which healer is the most satisfying to DPS as? WHM seems obvious, it hurls rocks and gusts of wind at people and you get to spam Holy, but at the same time AST seems like it has a similar deal with its malefics and Gravity, as well as the jolly fun of enhanced arrow or balance.

2. Whats the best way to DPS as SCH? Should I be making sure that all of my DoTs are up the whole duration of long fights? Or should I just be pressing 1 all the time?

[Judge_Xero]

1: SCH is the most satisfying healer to DPS as because you can contribute so much utility while never leaving Clerics.

2: DOTS are by far the highest potency per cast providing you get most of the duration of the DOT.

Bio - 240
Miasma - 320
Bio 2 - 350
Shadow flare - 250
Aero - 200
Miasma II on 3 targets - 210 (70 each)
Blizzard 2 - 50 per target

Broil - 170

[Cynfael]

So I'm mostly a SCH main, and I noticed that most of the time playing as SCH I was just pressing 1 for Broil until my eyes fell out of my sockets.

So now I have 2 questions:
1. In your personal opinion, which healer is the most satisfying to DPS as? WHM seems obvious, it hurls rocks and gusts of wind at people and you get to spam Holy, but at the same time AST seems like it has a similar deal with its malefics and Gravity, as well as the jolly fun of enhanced arrow or balance.

2. Whats the best way to DPS as SCH? Should I be making sure that all of my DoTs are up the whole duration of long fights? Or should I just be pressing 1 all the time?

Broil is supposed to be your filler between DoT refreshes; you're only prioritizing Broil if you're attacking targets that die too quickly for your DoTs to be worth casting.

1. I think WHM AoE is the most satisfying in terms of burst, but like Xero said, SCH is extremely well-suited to filling a support DPS role while multi-tasking. Also, SCH DPS is, of course, easily sustainable MP-wise.

2. DoTs. DoTs. DoTs. Broil when you don't need to cast anything else. DoTs about to fall off? Reapply unless the target will die before they can tick enough to be worth it.

[Rawrz]

The rule of thumb for SCH dots is if they will tick for at least 15 seconds, go for it. If you are looking to weave energy drain with bio/aero, 6 seconds is a dps gain.

[VanilleFang]

I personally find WHM to be the most fun. I'm pretty bias though, and I'm not sure if I would classify it as satisfaction.

Though I do get a feeling of euphoria when I hit every member of a large group of mobs with Aero III. People love Holy, but Aero III is my favourite drug.

[Rennies]

Astrologian is my main job but even I can admit it's got the least fun DPS "rotation". 3 DoTs (one of which isn't unique to the job) and either a ghetto Holy or a prettier, slightly weaker version of Stone III. At least the other Healers have oGCD damage abilities...

[VanilleFang]

Astrologian is my main job but even I can admit it's got the least fun DPS "rotation". 3 DoTs (one of which isn't unique to the job) and either a ghetto Holy or a prettier, slightly weaker version of Stone III. At least the other Healers have oGCD damage abilities...

Gravity is kinda pretty. But yeah, AST is sorta "meh" with DPS.

[Feyona]

I have recently joined a static group on my server toprogress from a10s onwards. Until now I have healed new content. Now I suddenly found that the most important job I have is to dps. I feel way out of my depth , I have so many spells. Ok in a10s first I got shadowflre, then aero, bio2,miasma, bio, mash, macro embrace on tank, broil, fey wind on cd, in between dot uptime galvanize tank buster sacred soil, lustrate, oh I forgot blizard 2 on adds, eye for an eye on tank virus on boss. Dont know if I left anything out.As offheal press the switches. Please let me be a healer with a a few dps spells I feel so stressed Im wanting to stop playing it. Statics wont let me heal on my server . This is not fun for me. I know I am not the only scholar that would like to be a healer. Oh I do admire you pro dps scholars but I do like healing. I just got too much to do 2 jobs with lots of spells.

[Phileas]

I never really felt like much of a healer as scholar. Sure i put up shields and indom as needed...but i felt like i cast way more dots and broil than i did heal.

WHM has assize, aero 3 and Holy so its great fun balancing cleric stance with healing and regen.

[Fernosaur]

For the OP: It depends. On boss fights, yes, you want to give your DoTs a 100% uptime if possible. This means refreshing all four basic DoTs and keeping Shadow Flare up at all times. Remember that using Sacred Soil erases Shadow Flare, so you have to renew it after mitigating with SS.

On trash pulls, it's likely you won't need to refresh DoTs, as a single application of all three+Bane will most likely be enough to last until all mobs are below 15% HP due to party DPS. In this case, redotting and Baning is not very optimal. For these cases, just put Blizzard II on your Cross class skills instead of Stoneskin and AoE them to death, but ONLY if there's 4 or more mobs. If there's 3 or less, just Broil them individually.

That said, I do find SCH to be the job in which DPSing is the most fun, for the reason that properly using your fairy's toolkit allows you to not drop Cleric Stance. Ever. Pulling this off in trash pulls that are as big as an entire floor is super satisfying, and regularly my tank friends comment that whenever they heal those pulls they have to be on the tank for 40%ish of the time.

On the other end of satisfaction, only when it comes to DPS in trash pulls, I love WHM. WHM's AoE burst is ridiculously stupid, and you don't need 4 GCDs to set up your AoE dps like SCH does. In A9S, my WHM friend used to jump to as much as 2k DPS on adds phases because of holy and assize. In the meantime, I never even had time to Bane before mobs were below 30% because I was on generator carrying duty.

So, by these two examples, it depends on what you prefer!

I never really felt like much of a healer as scholar. Sure i put up shields and indom as needed...but i felt like i cast way more dots and broil than i did heal.

WHM has assize, aero 3 and Holy so its great fun balancing cleric stance with healing and regen.

I have recently joined a static group on my server toprogress from a10s onwards. Until now I have healed new content. Now I suddenly found that the most important job I have is to dps. I feel way out of my depth , I have so many spells. Ok in a10s first I got shadowflre, then aero, bio2,miasma, bio, mash, macro embrace on tank, broil, fey wind on cd, in between dot uptime galvanize tank buster sacred soil, lustrate, oh I forgot blizard 2 on adds, eye for an eye on tank virus on boss. Dont know if I left anything out.As offheal press the switches. Please let me be a healer with a a few dps spells I feel so stressed Im wanting to stop playing it. Statics wont let me heal on my server . This is not fun for me. I know I am not the only scholar that would like to be a healer. Oh I do admire you pro dps scholars but I do like healing. I just got too much to do 2 jobs with lots of spells.

The problem with how SCH is currently shoehorned into this weird pre-conception that they should only be DPSing is kind of errant, imo. The goal of BOTH healers, regardless of their job, should be to DPS as much as possible without compromising their healing requirements. For this reason, I grind my teeth every time I see videos of an AST or WHM who just stand there waiting to cast cure because they are "main healers." This is wrong, because they are neglecting and ignoring the fact that SCH can provide as much healing, much faster, and by sacrificing less resources.

SCH's fairy facilitates not only that SCH provides high amounts of DPS, but also that the other healer does the same. If you add to this that SCH has the most amount of instant healing abilities per minute, you realize that you can take a lot of leverage off your co-healers shoulders. If you want to heal as SCH, start using Eos first. Selene's mini haste is cool and all, but the amount of utility Eos provide for both healers is incredible. A Roused Whispering Dawn can help you and your co-healer stay in Cleric Stance for ridiculously long periods of time without bothering to heal after raid-wide damage. Fey Illumination can make your co-healer's regens stronger, which means less need to go out of CS to provide extra healing, etc. On top of this, Lustrate and Indomitability being off the GCD means that you can cast Aero/Bio, pop out of Clerics, use any of these two on whoever needs emergency healing and pop back to Cleric in virtually the same GCD. Scholar is the healer with most action efficiency, and you should abuse this.

I understand your frustration with wanting to heal, but the way healing is designed in FFXIV, it's a job that constantly balances decision making based on finding windows in which you can DPS between windows of heavy damage. To maximize your toolkit, you and your other healer have to recognize that SCH's tools facilitate maximizing these DPS windows. It's a joint effort in which both healers have to understand this and attempt to DPS as much as possibly by abusing the very powerful fairy cooldowns.