[Cash Shop Idea] Game Time Token

[Caitlyn]

Little popoto poto is poor and wants gil. Should she turn to Bots? or a safe SE service?
Popoto buys a gametimetoken from the mogstation. She then puts it on the marketboard. She doesnt decide the price as it was already set. She cannot change the price. It sells and popoto is now X amount of gil richer.

Well, Little popoto poto is lazy and does actually RMT. Since Heavensward (including Aquapolis and Palace of the Dead) you have so many ways to get rich easily. Many players have so much gil, because they are investigating the markets and do alot of crafting stuff (and maybe because of RMT).

Off course, I would like to pay my subscription via ingame currency (like EVE already does). But it could be very dangerous when you give players the option to "legally" buy gil.

[Aldora]

Aldora, you are missing the point. with a Wowtoken system the players Dont control the prices. The prices are generated from an algorythm based on supply and demand, scaling slowly. no rapid pricechanges.

That might be the case for WoW, but as it stands now everyone has full control over the prices on our Market Boards, so SE would have to make a new system so that they can regulate the price of the items (rather then giving it in the hands of the players). On paper that would keep the price from escalating to a ridiculous height, but that brings us to the next point:

People wont have direct control of the prices. They will be generated on a supply/demand basis, slowly changing every hour.

I'm sorry, but how is is that better? You're basically saying that the value of game-time is determined by supply and demand? Who are we/they to say that 1-month worth of game time is worth 1M gil now and the next person has to pay 1.2M for the same amount of game-time? Next to the fact that not everyone will be paying the same price for game-time, you have the upper and the lower end of the economic community you need to take into account. 1M might be peanuts chump change for some, it will be be quite the amount for others.

There is no way you can justify buying game-time through an in-game currency based on supply and demand. It is simply mind boggling that people are actually considering this as a valid means to buy game time and playing a game. Yes, i know that WoW has introduced that particular system, and frankly it makes me sick to my stomach that they did.

With a subscription fee, everyone is paying the same amount of money for the same amount of game time. I've said it once and i'll say it again:

15 Dollars or Euro’s is not expensive for a monthly subscription of an MMO such as WoW or FFXIV. If you really don’t have that kind of money to spend on an MMO, then you really need to reconsider if playing an Subscription based MMO is such a good idea. The same applies to people who don’t have a lot of time to spend on gaming and feel that the 15 Dollars/Euro’s isn’t worth the amount of time they spend playing the game.

On the other hand, we are living in an era where a lot of people want to get “stuff” for free, while throwing money at other things without a sliver of thought. For example, we want to play a MMO for free, but on the other hand, we’re not hesitating when it comes to spending a fortune on vanity items in cash shops.

It's about the principle of it.

Lets make an example shall we?

Little popoto poto is poor and wants gil. Should she turn to Bots? or a safe SE service?
Popoto buys a gametimetoken from the mogstation. She then puts it on the marketboard. She doesnt decide the price as it was already set. She cannot change the price.
It sells and popoto is now X amount of gil richer.


Rhenbyrt Slafyrsyn on the other hand is stinkin' rich but doesnt feel like sharing his gil. How might we pry the gil from his hands? he sees he can buy a gametimetoken for X amount of gil. He does that and gets 30 "free" days.

And this is one of the main reasons why you should never add a system like this... By the Twelve... If you can't afford something, you have to work for it and to save up money in order to pay for the item you want. This is true in real life as well. By adding something like this, you are just feeding the "need" to throw your real life money for something you want in game. How can someone not see that there is something very wrong with that picture?

[Enur]

what you must remember is that in wow it worked

Why shouldnt we take the things that work in other games and add it to our own?

[Aldora]

Its not about "not affording" its about easing the finances

If it's about "easing the finances", when why are they playing a subscription MMO if they can use that money elsewhere?

[Caitlyn]

Its not about "not affording" its about easing the finances

Why do people still asking for "easing things up"? The problem is, you dont easing the finances, you make some things just useless. Why should I put so much effort and time in crafting, when I can do millions of gil just by buying them?

Why not put any high end gear into mog station, because you dont like to raid, but you want the loot.
Why not put a fast leveling-services for all classes into mog station, because you hate leveling, but wants all your classes to 60.
Why not put any bird and pony to mog station, because you hate farming primals.

Yeah... lets ease some things... : (

[Enur]

The point of this suggestion is not for benefit of players! Its to kill bots

Easing the finances of some is but a side effect. Not the main goal

[Genaxx]

How much on average would 30 days cost in WoW gold compared to gil? 5 mil? 10 mil? 30 mil?

[Zumi]

One issue with this if they ever do have a token is that Legacy subs are far less then regular subs. With Legacy we can have the $7.99 a month with the 6 month plan.

[Enur]

The tokens would be a separate service not affected by legacy status

[Violyre]

One issue with this if they ever do have a token is that Legacy subs are far less then regular subs. With Legacy we can have the $7.99 a month with the 6 month plan.

They'd probably do the same thing the subscription cards do: flat 60 days, regardless of account type