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  1. #371
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErikMynhier View Post
    You made no point other then you form poor arguments and when challenged throw out a passive aggressive barb. You really Trumped her.
    "I work full time, I earn my money kids."

    Yeah... she's the passive aggressive one.
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  2. #372
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunafreya View Post
    Because you like it.... it isn't overpriced to you? I don't understand you. If you bought a 1000 dollar dress would you go around to your friends saying it isn't overpriced because you like it?
    Well.... Yes, that's pretty much exactly how it works.
    If you are happy to spend that kind of money on it and are satisfied with the purchase, then it's not overpriced for what it is.

    I mean, there are plenty of instances where people are willing to spend more money based on the fact they prefer the end product.
    I'll spend more for lunch a restaurant A instead of less at restaurant B since I like A's food more, despite both being perfectly good at filling me up.
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  3. #373
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    "I work full time, I earn my money kids."

    Yeah... she's the passive aggressive one.
    I'm not sure how a guy saying he has the right to spend his money he earned by working is passive-aggressive. Her huffing and puffing about trying claim that SE is forcing RMT at us with an optional cash shop they put up is.
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  4. #374
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    Yes, I definitely would! Why? Simply because that is what I equate the satisfaction of the item to the price paid for.

    If I own a fancy car, or had a large house renovated for a substantial sum, it may be overpriced to another, but it is not overpriced to the user who paid for it. Simply because if it was overpriced, I would not have bought it.

    If u really want an objective value of what overpriced is, that is when you find a value that nobody in the market is willing to pay a price for. That is when the value of an item does not equate to any satisfaction derived out of the payment. Before that point is reached, all this constant cries about items are overpriced are pointless because every value before the critical price (where nobody is willing pay) is purely subjective.

    When that critical objective price is reached and nobody is paying for the item, SE will be definitely do something.
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  5. #375
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blim View Post
    Yes, I definitely would! Why? Simply because that is what I equate the satisfaction of the item to the price paid for.

    If I own a fancy car, or had a large house renovated for a substantial sum, it may be overpriced to another, but it is not overpriced to the user who paid for it. Simply because if it was overpriced, I would not have bought it.

    If u really want an objective value of what overpriced is, that is when you find a value that nobody in the market is willing to pay a price for. That is when the value of an item does not equate to any satisfaction derived out of the payment. Before that point is reached, all this constant cries about items are overpriced are pointless because every value before the critical price (where nobody is willing pay) is purely subjective.

    When that critical objective price is reached and nobody is paying for the item, SE will be definitely do something.
    I like your style, so here you go, this site may interest you with some buyers of your particular taste. They all thought these were good purchases, they just couldn't resist, Tell me which one you would be happy to spend the same price for. i would love to know.

    Here: http://www.elitereaders.com/ridiculo...ns-of-dollars/
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  6. #376
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blood-Aki View Post
    I like your style, so here you go, this site may interest you with some buyers of your particular taste. They all thought these were good purchases, they just couldn't resist, Tell me which one you would be happy to spend the same price for. i would love to know.

    Here: http://www.elitereaders.com/ridiculo...ns-of-dollars/
    Why are you even trying to second guess the happiness or satisfaction of these people? same for the people who paid said prices for the items on mogstation, are you telling me these people are not happy and dissatisfied with their purchase? reeks of envy to me masquerading as trying to pose an intellectual challenge.

    Were they forced to buy the item? doesn't seem to be the case. Are you saying you know better than all these people because you somehow have this magical yardstick by which to measure happiness and satisfaction over a purchase and this will translate into a value that is considered "not overpriced"
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    Last edited by Blim; 11-03-2016 at 10:47 AM.

  7. #377
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blim View Post
    Yes, I definitely would! Why? Simply because that is what I equate the satisfaction of the item to the price paid for.
    And here you are defending the price of a virtual dress at 18 dollars. Only rational people know this stuff is overpriced and should be 3 bucks tops. You keep preaching to us to not buy it if we don't like it but that's not the issue. We do like the item, but we think rationally and don't throw dollars at the screen every time we see an exclusive item. Instead, we would wish this item were an event in game or something. I think your constant blabbering about your defense of the mogshop is endearing. It also gives me many laughs, so please; keep on preaching to us why the dress is not overpriced to you at 18 dollars for one item. I doubt you'd wear this dress a month until the next cash shop exclusive is out.
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  8. #378
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunafreya View Post
    And here you are defending the price of a virtual dress at 18 dollars. Only rational people know this stuff is overpriced and should be 3 bucks tops. You keep preaching to us to not buy it if we don't like it but that's not the issue. We do like the item, but we think rationally and don't throw dollars at the screen every time we see an exclusive item. Instead, we would wish this item were an event in game or something. I think your constant blabbering about your defense of the mogshop is endearing. It also gives me many laughs, so please; keep on preaching to us why the dress is not overpriced to you at 18 dollars for one item. I doubt you'd wear this dress a month until the next cash shop exclusive is out.
    You're not even doing yourself any justice here. Only "rational people" know it is overpriced....

    How do you even define rational. You are taking the high pedestal and taking on this "holier than thou" stance now.

    Are you always able to afford everything in the world? Do you like the pricings of everything in the world? there's always going to be times when you find something way out of the budget and say "well I'll pass this time, I can't justify the purchase or I cannot afford it." Full stop and move on Or is it that you have always had your way in life so far that you never had to make such a decision

    This is the reality and based on this reality you make a choice. If you can't afford it or do not wish to part with the money, so be it. That is just how it is.

    What you are essentially saying now is

    1. I want the item
    2. I want the item cheaper because I cannot afford it
    3. I want the item cheaper because I WANT it to be cheaper
    4. SE must listen to me because I am rational and I am right
    5. Everybody who paid $18 is not rational because I am rational for wanting it to be $3 tops

    And yes, I may or may not wear this dress the next month if something exclusive comes out. I may or may put the dress into a rotation once a month or once a year or every alternate day. Who are you to be second guessing me on what I do with the item, my money that I paid for and what I should be feeling? On what grounds are you basing to tell me I should not be satisfied with my current purchase and I should be feeling guilty because I paid $18 for it and I should be just like the rest of your camp that says items should be at max $3 and I am irrational for paying $18 for it.

    I am not defending Mogstation in the least. Get your facts and arguments right. I am simply saying, if you find an item overpriced, don't pay for it since nobody is forcing the item on you. Just as a product is displayed on the shelves of a store, the consumer makes the final choice whether they want to purchase it and whether they derive any value/satisfaction from paying that price.

    Are you going to go to the car sales centre and tell the staff "hey your car is overpriced, its not worth $X because it is only worth $Y in my opinion. You know, the guy before who just purchased it at $X is not rational, you should sell it to me at $Y cause I'm rational." They'll think you're either off your rockers or at worst tell you to GTFO.

    You just simply want to have both your cake and eat it.
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    Last edited by Blim; 11-03-2016 at 10:59 AM.

  9. #379
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    Man, lots of people in this thread telling other people how they should feel about things.

    "Anyone that spends more than $5 on anything in the world is a whale, because $5 is all anything should be worth." i think people who spend money on real life clothes are rediculous. who needs a $100 pair of jeans, or an $80 t-shirt. (/sarcasm)

    Let people spend money where they want to. Or dont ever drink alcohol again, or smoke a cigarette :P
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    Last edited by Valkyrie_Lenneth; 11-03-2016 at 10:43 AM.

  10. #380
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    I find posters like you that say "I'll pay x for x" obnoxious. You make the price high with your cries to SE. I KNOW that the price becoming cheaper will never happen with the mindless people here that keep shouting.
    A rational response to this thread would be the complete opposite of what you are doing. Instead, it would be "I bought the item but do feel that this isn't a good deal with the dress being for one character at 18 dollars. Hell, you can't even wear this on alts without paying again and I feel that is dumb. You are being the opposite and claiming superiority over your bought item to others because "you like it" but you don't stop to think about others. It is all you and your defense of the cash shop.

    IN FACT, I can buy the item right now if I chose to do so, but seeing the price, THAT steep for one dress that isn’t even account wide for instance is absolutely dumb. I feel that the price is a ripoff for these reasons. After all, even a set like Minfillia’s that comes with more stuff is cheaper than this. How do you justify the price of this being expensive when it is 1 item?

    Edit: If you aren't defending mog station then why are you preaching to us why your purchase satisfied you and wasn't overpriced?
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    Last edited by Lunafreya; 11-03-2016 at 11:03 AM.

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