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  1. #311
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    AstralKaos's Avatar
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    Sophia Aintree
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    I'll admit, the tone of the post you responded to did seem condescending, though.
    There's no condescending intention in my post, I can assure you of that. I don't need to be condescending to say something I wish to say, which is evident in my first post in this topic where I call those believing that cash shop earnings get put back into this game decently are "gullible fools".

    And for the record, I have used the cash shop myself for Fantasia's and one outfit, YET I hold the opinion that it shouldn't be here when it's still a sub MMO. And that the prices and content quality are absurd - can't dye, some are multi-slot taking, not account-wide etc etc. My use of it that one time does make me a hypocrite, sure, but I don't for one second delude myself into thinking it will fund anything substantial nor does it mean said item wouldn't be here without it.
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  2. #312
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    @Blim: You make good points, but there is still economical valid arguments about the community discussing about overpricing.

    For example is it better for SE to sell 2000x Mount at $5 (Total: $10000), or 500x Mount at $15 (Total: $7500), furthermore where it costs kind of nothing to digitally produce 2000x or 500x.

    And so as a customer it is legitimate feedback information to say that you estimate the price to be too high for you to order at all, but that you would be willing to purchase more items if the prices were lower.
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    Last edited by Chocolys; 11-02-2016 at 01:20 PM.

  3. #313
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    BakaChin's Avatar
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    Kaguya Tsukuyomi
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    I'll be honest, i really don't mind the cash shop because all in all it serves for those who want to look good. There are no pay 2 win items so why stress over something so trivial. Just my personal opinion.

    you have the choice to buy something from it or not. if you choose not to buy anything then it won't affect your game at all.
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  4. #314
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    Alex2015's Avatar
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    Narumi Alexander
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    If you're really desiring or being attracted by these items in Mog Station, that means the inside value of these items does the purpose, so SE can set any prices on them. I think SE did extremely cheap price on them. These unrelated game content's items should be charged over $50. Cash shop means a hard way to gain something that you've missed but indeed really, really, really wanted, but it should not be a cheap way. For example, we got seasonal items free if we were on time during the period, but someone has to pay for it if he/she didn't attend in time. To compare between free and cost, it's a significant difference. So cash shop should experience or overpriced, that's nothing wrong about.
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  5. #315
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    Mihana's Avatar
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    Sa'hana Zhralyia
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    I have to say I do think the prices are a little absurd, and I can't see them being justified for some objects. The magitek mounts for example are just palette swaps of the main story one which you get for free. And that a lot of the things are character exclusive is annoying. I suppose I should just be grateful they didn't make some of these into those "grab bag" type things you see on other F2P MMOs out there. I hate those things. At least here you know buying the Far Eastern Garb will get you the Far Eastern Garb and not a chance at it.
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  6. #316
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    Paladinleeds's Avatar
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    Nomfur Farredzasyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex2015 View Post
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    So what if we made it so those seasonal items cost over 500 billion dollars? Would that be considered expensive enough for you? Actually no let's make it 500 octodecillion dollars (5, then one hundred and ten 0's after). Is that expensive enough for you? I want to know what you deem as what the price should be set at since you said it should be overpriced.
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

  7. #317
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    Xine Erauqs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paladinleeds View Post
    So what if we made it so those seasonal items cost over 500 billion dollars? Would that be considered expensive enough for you? Actually no let's make it 500 octodecillion dollars (5, then one hundred and ten 0's after). Is that expensive enough for you? I want to know what you deem as what the price should be set at since you said it should be overpriced.
    The same could be said about everybody harping about something being overpriced. NOBODY is going to reach a consensus on what is overpriced. It's your word against my word, your perspective against my perspective. The only common denominator is - you have a free choice to buy it or not.

    For crying out loud. ALL you guys who keep harping bout overpriced overpriced overpriced, you're are all in the same boat as everyone, realize this. The only issue being

    1. people on the end screaming about something is overpriced or not to be in the cash shop are on 1 end of the spectrum where anything over even a cent is considered overpriced. Their tolerance value is 0

    2. people willing to pay eg. $20 for the item have a tolerance value of 20

    3. people willing to pay $100 for the item have a tolerance value of 100

    At the end of the day, it is all the same. The only difference is where your tolerance level for the price of something is and it lies at various points on this spectrum.

    The question that needs to be answered is not constantly shouting that something is overpriced because being overpriced is a relative concept. The CRUX is where is this absolute value where every potential consumer finally says "it is not feasible to tolerate this pricing" THAT my friend is the absolute OBJECTIVE price that can be approximated to what you have been calling OVERPRICED, because that is value when the market indicates that it derives NO value from paying that said amount.

    SE will then have to adjust it again based on this realization.

    You can cry till the cows come home about X being overpriced and nothing will change because everybody has a different idea of what overpriced is.
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    Last edited by Blim; 11-02-2016 at 08:43 PM.

  8. #318
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    NatSilverguard's Avatar
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    Nat Silverguard
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paladinleeds View Post
    So what if we made it so those seasonal items cost over 500 billion dollars? Would that be considered expensive enough for you? Actually no let's make it 500 octodecillion dollars (5, then one hundred and ten 0's after). Is that expensive enough for you? I want to know what you deem as what the price should be set at since you said it should be overpriced.
    $500 octodecillion dollars, what mog station is on sale? really cheap imho...
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  9. #319
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blim View Post
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    I was more trying to figure out what he would want us to pay for the items. Trying to probe for his viewpoint. Though I get what you're saying, everyone has different values of what constitutes a fair price. Using the Korean/Chinese attire as an example, if they let me change the gender of the item at the Calamity Salvager (I use way too much fantasia), then I could justify spending £12 (since that's what we pay in the UK). But as I'd have to buy it twice so I could use either gender at any time no matter what gender I am, that's where my tolerance goes too far. And it doesn't matter what the price is really, that issue would still stand.

    Quote Originally Posted by NatSilverguard View Post
    $500 octodecillion dollars, what mog station is on sale? really cheap imho...
    I got someone else using octodecillion, I am happy.
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

  10. #320
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    Supply and Demand....just like marketboard prices, it is how profits and losses are measured. Think MarketBoard, it has been this way a long time.

    There are always other games you can migrate to if this is too much for you. You like this game? You like those items? Then either buy it, get a friend to gift you or just forget about it.
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