Mog Station is overpriced.

[Ametrine]

I don't know, I just feel like the language being used by cash shop naysayers is pretty unnecessarily vicious all over the forums.

I feel like we're defending our rights to use our own money how we desire to foster our own happiness, ingame and out, not hearing reasoning behind the opinion that Mogstation items are too expensive for too many players and that's bad.

I could buy plenty of things that are frivolous, too, but I'm going to choose things I want the most. That's rational logic, there.

[Blim]

I find posters like you that say "I'll pay x for x" obnoxious. You make the price high with your cries to SE. I KNOW that the price becoming cheaper will never happen with the mindless people here that keep shouting.

A rational response to this thread would be the complete opposite of what you are doing. Instead, it would be "I bought the item but do feel that this isn't a good deal with the dress being for one character at 18 dollars. Hell, you can't even wear this on alts without paying again and I feel that is dumb. You are being the opposite and claiming superiority over your bought item to others because "you like it" but you don't stop to think about others. It is all you and your defense of the cash shop.

IN FACT, I can buy the item right now if I chose to do so, but seeing the price, THAT steep for one dress that isn’t even account wide for instance is absolutely dumb. I feel that the price is a ripoff for these reasons. After all, even a set like Minfillia’s that comes with more stuff is cheaper than this. How do you justify the price of this being expensive when it is 1 item?

Edit: If you aren't defending mog station then why are you preaching to us why your purchase satisfied you and wasn't overpriced?

Aren't you telling people how they should feel about spending their money? You're telling me RIGHT NOW in that sentence of yours HOW I should be thinking and feeling about my purchase and what I do with my money.

Nowhere at any point am I being superior simply by the fact that I like my purchase. Is it wrong to be satisfied with my purchase? Should I be feeling guilty and "not superior" as you put it about my purchase because it cost $18. How does me liking something I bought make me superior to the person next to me. Or are you suffering from some inferiority complex that anything that doesn't go according to your way or does not ascribe to your values takes on elements of superiority?

Me paying $18 for something has got nothing to do with me thinking about you or others. I was offered a product by the merchant SE on an online platform at a price of $18, the item (digital data or whatever you want to call it was titled "Far Eastern Matriach's Dress", I liked the presentation and images on the online store-front and I paid that price of $18 to the merchant. TLDR: I saw a product I liked, felt that it was worth my $18 (obviously not worth $18 to you) and I bought it. Simple.

Why are even reading so much into this about thinking about you, him, her or others. I was simply a customer buying something I liked with my own money, not SE's money and certainly not your money. Why should I be made to feel guilty about spending my own money on something I like as if i committed a crime against humanity.Why do I need to be part of your camp that says people who spend $18 are irrational, are inconsiderate towards the community because we paid $18 for something and that $3 is the correct price.

You say you can buy the item right now but you CHOSE not to, that is the point all along. You made that choice of not buying because you feel it is not worth the value and a ripoff. That is your decision not to buy it because that decision was made in full knowledge and awareness of the price and your surrounding circumstances. Full stop.

Why do keep going on and on about it being overpriced when the term overpriced itself is subjective because everybody has different definitions of overpriced and then you start to add on things like people who paid $18 are not rational.

Don't like the price, don't buy it. What is so difficult about this concept? And what's with all these weird and irrelevant justifications about rational consumers and $3 items. Nobody told you not to buy the item, and nobody forced you not to buy the item. You simply made the decision not to buy the item for the reasons you stated yourself.

And for the umpteenth time, buying something at a price of $18 from mogstation is not equated to defending mogstation. Purchasing a car from a renowned car maker does not equate to defending the car maker. All it shows is, the consumer liked the item/brand/service. That is all. Stop making extrapolations of things that do not exist.

[Blim]

I don't know, I just feel like the language being used by cash shop naysayers is pretty unnecessarily vicious all over the forums.

I feel like we're defending our rights to use our own money how we desire to foster our own happiness, ingame and out, not hearing reasoning behind the opinion that Mogstation items are too expensive for too many players and that's bad.

I could buy plenty of things that are frivolous, too, but I'm going to choose things I want the most. That's rational logic, there.

This! good summary

[Bourne_Endeavor]

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If I could grind out Sleipnir in-game, I have no reason to pay $24 for it. Hence why they made it cash shop exclusive. As for the cash shop itself, I'm indifferent to it because it doesn't impede my actual gameplay. Personally, I would rather toss money for mounts or outfits I fancy than grind one million MGP. The way I see it, I'm paying for a convenience. In lieu of doing menial chores, I get what I want immediately. Granted, I do think these dresses are overpriced, which is why I've held off buying them for the time being. As for why people ask, it's like I said earlier. Square is far more likely to listen if a person offers to pay for them to include an extra item than if they were to demand it be free.

But the main reason I do not mind the cash shop is because we're still given plenty of glamour free. Each major patch cycle sees a slew of new glamour. While you might not get a cute dress or badass horse, you'll still have lots to choose from.

[SenorPatty]

This thread should just be locked. The amount of people here who are unable to argue their reason for something to be over or reasonably priced without degrading people's intelligence or sanity is getting out of hand.

[Lunafreya]

Pardon me if I misunderstood your post. You used excessive sentences and caps locked things so I felt you were raging at people that are against purchasing these items. You also told people to cancel their sub and said we were harping. To me, you seemed like you saw people not liking what you purchased and broke down into a huge rant. I assumed you were not rational for calling others out on legitimate complaints, etc. Let me get to the point. You bought the item, and that is good for you if you didn't find it overpriced but you never responded to my point about how I can buy 3 costumes for less on another game and instead you took the easy way out and said don't buy it if you don't like it. I ASSUMED you were defending the cash shop based on your purchase and passive aggressive remarks to others.

And again, I thought your superiority came with your previous posts. If I got the wrong impression, i'm sorry. Still, our disdain for the mogshop is still feedback whether you like it or not. What irritates me the most is people constantly saying they will buy x for x. I mean, sure that's nice and all but not everything has to be on the cash shop. Some of these items can very well serve as crafting recipes or event items in game. As for the meaning of overpriced being subjective, I find it hard to believe anyone would think the purchase was satisfying, but that's just me I guess.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

This thread should just be locked. The amount of people here who are unable to argue their reason for something to be over or reasonably priced without degrading people's intelligence or sanity is getting out of hand.

And we'll get to do it all over again n extthread. See you at the next cash shop update!

[Miste]

Pardon me if I misunderstood your post. You used excessive sentences and caps locked things so I felt you were raging at people that are against purchasing these items. You also told people to cancel their sub and said we were harping.

They said some stuff that was unnecessary before but that last big post by Blim pretty much sums up everything. There is no point in trying to argue about the value of things since everyone is going to have a different opinion and calling people irrational just because their opinion doesn't mirror yours is pointless and unnecessary rudeness also.

Some people just don't think $18 is overpriced even if you or I think it is and no one is right or wrong in this case really. It's all just opinions.

I kind of think of it like this...some glamours in-game cost millions of gil. I think the new Poncho they added recently was going for like 9 million on my server. Now 9 million to most players is a lot of gil to spend...a lot might think it is overpriced...but then you have those players with 120mill+ to their name (and also can make gil easily) and because of this 9million to them is chump change so they probably don't think of it as overpriced especially if it is something they really want.

[Blood-Aki]

This thread should just be locked. The amount of people here who are unable to argue their reason for something to be over or reasonably priced without degrading people's intelligence or sanity is getting out of hand.

It will be pretty much have to, But it isn't the 1st thread complaining about the cash shop and the whales coming in with "but it's optional, i spend my money how i want, and you can't stop me!" attitude that hasn't been displayed, Nothing you can do about it. Just be very thankful if it's not your money.

[tjw]

I kind of think of it like this...some glamours in-game cost millions of gil. I think the new Poncho they added recently was going for like 9 million on my server. Now 9 million to most players is a lot of gil to spend...a lot might think it is overpriced...but then you have those players with 120mill+ to their name (and also can make gil easily) and because of this 9million to them is chump change so they probably don't think of it as overpriced especially if it is something they really want.

And the in-game spectrum is even more vast than the spectrum of wealth IRL. I myself hover around 5-10mil gil, which I think is plenty, and it affords me enough gil for what I want in-game. Are there things that are beyond my in-game wallet? Yes, the HA Healing Coat, for example, was over 50mil when it first arrived. Did I complain? No, I went hard at farming the mats and making it myself; to this day, it is still one of my few 'crafter' self-achievements. However, I know plenty of people where to them 50mil is a drop in a bucket. They can easily buy up whole market-loads of materia for melding and not find it any trouble.

I personally find the min-maxing of crafter/gatherer gear "overpriced" in both effort and/or gil, so I don't aim for it. That is, however, my choice. Are we going to call those who min-max stats irrational? Are we going to look down on them for the gil/time they put in? So why are we trying to paint the same label over those who use their RL money to do the exact same concept? To each their own, I say; particularly if we're talking small scale like virtual items.

Objectively speaking, there is a limit to where 99% of people will look at a price for a particular product and go 'that's overpriced for what I get' but that limit is far, far away from $18 for a pretty dress. And SE knows it. They're a big company, and they will have market analysis of whether they can make a profit or not. They'll be far from that limit for a long time to come.