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    Matthias Gendrin
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    Cactuar
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Sarcatica View Post
    The thing is some posters here don't advocate doing DPS even when their primary responsibility is met. Now that's the issue. Most tanks don't know how to maximize damage output is also another one. You can have tanks doing as low as 400dps and on the extreme side, some tanks can do 1.5k dps, both are doing the same fight. How does that happen actually? Is it just a coincidence that most tanks that advocate pure tanking do as low as 500dps (pls check if anyone here gets that number btw), when optimally you can do 800dps in full tank stance? For tanks to have as high as 60% difference in DPS despite both in the same tank stance uptime is sketchy. People aren't readily going to admit they do low DPS either nor they will say they can't press buttons in a logical way. One word I can say: skill. This is why the discussions always end up in a huge mess because it represents 2 sides that dont want to talk it out. A good discussion can only happen when common issues and understanding match.

    How do you feel yourself when you see OTs in 24mans doing way less DPS than you especially when you are main tank, and even worse you are on 100% tank stance? That's a huge red flag people need to look into.
    I don't actually have a parser because it's against the ToU, and because people have been banned for using parse numbers to belittle other players.

    Which is exactly what you seem to be doing here (so be careful).

    I'd advise you to read my corollary; at the end of the raid, what matters is not whether you did 500dps with 70% mitigation or 2000dps with 20% mitigation. What matters is whether or not you had fun, whether or not the boss died, and whether or not you helped the group get through the fights. Sure, people who optimize their output will help encounters go more quickly, but the only measure of skill and success is whether or not you are performing adequately to complete the content you are challenging. In something like Weeping City of Mhach? Optimized tank DPS isn't going to matter as much to that end as in A12S. It may help some in Weeping City, but both tanks will be able to succeed at the encounter, and so both are equally performant to that end.
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    Last edited by Jpec07; 11-03-2016 at 04:25 AM.
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