RIP Minion Collectors :(

[Teryaani]

Speaking as someone who doesn't PVP, what is wrong with SE encouraging people to do it with exclusives?

[Lexia]

Speaking as someone who doesn't PVP, what is wrong with SE encouraging people to do it with exclusives?

Cause SE have been know to not do exclusive stuff, oh you missed that season event that ok we will just throw it on the mogshop for you to buy it or new players demand that they get items from before they started playing and SE caves by bringing it back to the game or throwing them in the mogshop as said earlier but now they want to be "oh only limited very exclusive rewards for doing this content" and on top of that from what I have read even if you do PVP only the best of the best will get it.

[Teryaani]

Cause SE have been know to not do exclusive stuff, oh you missed that season event that ok we will just throw it on the mogshop for you to buy it or new players demand that they get items from before they started playing and SE caves by bringing it back to the game or throwing them in the mogshop as said earlier but now they want to be "oh only limited very exclusive rewards for doing this content" and on top of that from what I have read even if you do PVP only the best of the best will get it.

They have a few exclusives now. They haven't budged on legacy rewards and I'm hoping they don't budge on this. There should be a few things in the game that are limited and special. Sure, don't do it with everything, but a few things? Why not?

There'd be nothing wrong with encouraging PvP, but this doesn't encourage it.

There is zero chance of getting this if you don't compete in the feast. Yes, it's very limited, but you can't get it if you don't compete.

[Niwashi]

There is zero chance of getting this if you don't compete in the feast. Yes, it's very limited, but you can't get it if you don't compete.

There's zero chance if you don't compete and virtually zero chance if you do compete. The difference between those chances is too minuscule to encourage anyone to compete who wasn't going to anyway. So yeah, this doesn't encourage PvP.

[TiaHariberux3]

Cause SE have been know to not do exclusive stuff, oh you missed that season event that ok we will just throw it on the mogshop for you to buy it or new players demand that they get items from before they started playing and SE caves by bringing it back to the game or throwing them in the mogshop as said earlier but now they want to be "oh only limited very exclusive rewards for doing this content" and on top of that from what I have read even if you do PVP only the best of the best will get it.

Thats not true some stuff didnt came later in cash shop just let ppl have their minion shh

[Niwashi]

Speaking as someone who doesn't PVP, what is wrong with SE encouraging people to do it with exclusives?

There'd be nothing wrong with encouraging PvP, but this doesn't encourage it.

[Talraen]

Speaking as someone who doesn't PVP, what is wrong with SE encouraging people to do it with exclusives?

I feel like we're constantly re-treading ground, but in short, these are too exclusive. If you are not already a top-ranked PvPer, the chances you'll make it into the top 10 (in two different ranking pools!) are essentially zero. This isn't a "get good" or "try harder" scenario, this is a "you may legitimately be the best PvPer in the game and still miss this due to random chance" scenario. Casual players know they have no chance, so there is no upside to this reward because it may as well not exist. But there is a downside (see: the original post).

[LunaFaye]

I feel like we're constantly re-treading ground, but in short, these are too exclusive. If you are not already a top-ranked PvPer, the chances you'll make it into the top 10 (in two different ranking pools!) are essentially zero. This isn't a "get good" or "try harder" scenario, this is a "you may legitimately be the best PvPer in the game and still miss this due to random chance" scenario. Casual players know they have no chance, so there is no upside to this reward because it may as well not exist. But there is a downside (see: the original post).

Well pvp never worked out great on this game, probably the reason they are now adding minions and mounts to it. People are more invested or happier to just give it a try than prior. However it's not true that casual players can't get the items, I'm not sure if you have run pvp lately but I find myself often enough in groups with just casual people or win traders or people that just afk it fully. I don't think I've met a "good/best" pvp'er at least not on this game, not to mention that ffxiv isn't made for pvp compared to actual games that have a huge pvp popularity. I would just say, give it a try, if you score great if not at least you tried and with more people queue'ing it might even go quicker.

[Talraen]

Well pvp never worked out great on this game, probably the reason they are now adding minions and mounts to it. People are more invested or happier to just give it a try than prior. However it's not true that casual players can't get the items, I'm not sure if you have run pvp lately but I find myself often enough in groups with just casual people or win traders or people that just afk it fully. I don't think I've met a "good/best" pvp'er at least not on this game, not to mention that ffxiv isn't made for pvp compared to actual games that have a huge pvp popularity.

Just because you haven't met them doesn't mean there aren't at least 10 of them on your data center. Note, not server, data center. And this isn't a reward from a one-time thing, this is an overall ranking. You aren't going to luck into it.

This will get more people to do PvP, but only people who are overconfident and/or terrible at math. If they want an incentive, they need to make it achievable. This isn't.

[Seraphyna]

You would have thought they would have learned from the non existant PVP lines at fan fest. No one wanted to do PVP. They were begging for players. Adding one time rewards to it is only going piss people off, case in point.