Main Scenario Restriction Bloodstorm - Very Very Bad idea.

[Reynhart]

- The story and lore remains the same, it does not get changed nor does established lore/story get contradicted - it's just skipped

Not really. When people ask for a skip potion, they just want to to skip the restriction to be able to play endgame quicker. The quests will still remain, and people will be able to do them, just later. Meaning that they'd have entered Ishgard, and, after several weeks (or months), would have done Steps Of Faith to gain the right to enter Ishgard. They would have rejoin with the Scions, and then, after several weeks (or months) see them prosecuted for murder and gone missing.

If you join a full team on party finder in Idyllshire for a hard mode primal fight and you see a first time bonus, it will be clear that one of them skipped something...

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Yes, you could. Even at low levels, some bosses still do AoE better healed my one medica than several Cure. The fact that you know is not proving anything. Maybe you're a quick learner, and could have been thrown in the game with a lvl 50 character right from the start. I personally didn't have any issue with PLD or WAR, despite having them max level before ARR. Yet, SE deemed important to create something like the Novic Hall, which had probably helped lots of new players.

They do, but it's wasted MP to heal below a certain threshold. Granted, you learn that later on. Anywho, the whole point is the game isn't teaching you any of this. One of my friends even complained about how few Conjurer/White Mage quests actually required her to heal. A person who jumped to 50 wouldn't necessarily be clueless because there are outside tools they can utilize. And what about people who grind PotD or Fates? They aren't going to learn anything leveling through those methods yet its the most optimal. Hall of Novice is a good addition, but it also highlights people aren't learning their jobs through MSQ or job quests otherwise why would you need it?

I'd enjoy the game less, because it wouldn't stay true to itself. Here's an example. You play WoW as a Human Paladin. You read/played just about everyhting in the Warcraft universe, and then they release Wrath Of The Lich King, with the Nightelf Death Knight...in theory, you should be like "WTF, Nightelves can't be Death Knight, they're protected from the scourge !". After that, you have Cataclysm with the Nightelf Mage..."That's bullshit, Nightelves can't be mages ! The Elves mages are the High elves, thus the Blood Elves !"...in all that, you still play a Human Paladin, so it doesn't change the game for your character. You wouldn't be (haven't been if you played WoW) bothered by that ?

Or else, if they decide "Fuck the lore, let's bring this character back from the dead without any explanation !" wouldn't it bother you ?

Really? You would enjoy the game less because a person you don't even know skipped the story? To each their own, I suppose. As for your example, all of that only applies to people who care about the lore. If our hypothetical level skipper just likes WoW for its raids and gameplay. She's not going to have any reaction to it beyond "how does this effect my class and what new abilities do I have to get used to?" Gameplay is what she's concerned about. A skip option would literally just be skipping the story. Think of it like playing Mass Effect or Dragon Age out of order. You'll be a little lost but that's on you for choosing to skip ahead because you didn't like whichever one came before it. For those who want to know everything, they can and will play all three games.

[Morningstar1337]

So from what i got from people who say no to skip potion seem to think:

New player to FFXIV = Never played MMOs and needs to learn

I mean everyone knows FFXIV is so different from all tab target games right....? >_>

TBF, it seems to be poised as a Beginner's MMO and I think most the WoW and XI vets that were intereted in this game already subbed, meaning that players new to the genre would be a vast (I'd wager 90%) majority

[Zojha]

The quests will still remain, and people will be able to do them, just later.

Yes. Like you can do PotD to floor 50 before doing Tam-Tara hard. Or like you can still do your 30-50 dragoon quests during the climax of the dragonsong war. Or how you can still cook for the Sultana while she's presumed dead. Does that change the story or lore? Not one bit - just as they aren't doing it right now. It's a time bubble - these things happened during the patches they were introduced in, they don't happen when you actually do them. Tam-Tara (Hard) happens before PotD, whether you do that dungeon or not. The dragoon questline happens before Heavensward, whether you do it or not.
As I said, it's like reading a later book in a series before the prior ones - reading the second before the first does not change the first, nor does it contradict it.

And my apologies, but if you have to artificially construct edge cases in which you might notice skipping, that pretty much proves the point that you really won't notice it at all.

[Reynhart]

Really? You would enjoy the game less because a person you don't even know skipped the story?

No, I'd enjoy the game less because the dev-team would actually acknowledge that consistency is not important.

Would it bother you if the game received a cash shop where you could buy a whole set of Savage gear ?

Yes. Like you can do PotD to floor 50 before doing Tam-Tara hard. Or like you can still do your 30-50 dragoon quests during the climax of the dragonsong war. Or how you can still cook for the Sultana while she's presumed dead. Does that change the story or lore? Not one bit - just as they aren't doing it right now.

"The game already allows some exceptions for the sake of progression, so it should allow more of them, and especially the need for progression". Not twisted at all...

[Krazymagic]

Without reading 82 pages of replies, I have never seen Yoshi say what the OP is suggesting. In fact, I remember them suggesting just the opposite in the past, that 4.0 would add a new on ramp. Where did Yoshi say this? Has this been confirmed ?

[ADVSS]

I guess it depends on how they do story this time around, I personally dont get why levelling is such a huge deal for people, in an mmoRPG, i mean we have mobas and fps for people who want all theyre gonna get forever at the beginning of the game. The gear hamster wheel isnt really all that engaging, would just see more of the crowd that pops in for 3 weeks after every even numbered patch just to quit again cause gimme gimmie dat fat carrot. I sort of enjoy starting off in new games at first. I could see the potions for people who already achieved max level, but to compare this games gameplay with 11? Is it even that similar, thought 11 was heavilly menu and list based, at least from the videos ive seen.

Heres an ides you might be missing and this comes up alot whenever they shorten a relic step or whatnot, but how many veterans would just go "yeah thats fine, ive only been subbing for 3 years and this guys got higher level characters on his first day"

[Aamalthea]

Here's the thing that a lot of you don't understand.

FFXIV is no ordinary mmo. FFXI wasn't either, people who played EQ could "get" FFXI.

For people who know what SE does, coming to FFXIV is no big deal. They expect a story and they damn sure get one. But for your average person who plays WoW or SWTOR, or whatever they get a story, but it's not so grand that they can't just get through it super easy. They don't know that there's a story that's fantastic, and honestly a lot of them don't have the patience.

You could say you don't want those people in the game but, you sure want the upgrades to the game that their money brings.

A summary, or at least the clean up of those small, "go gather the crap I dropped on the ground" or "lets go play hide and seek with children and then go talk to them for no reason" quests should be cleaned up and streamlined.

[Gemina]

"What?! I have to complete more semesters before I get my masters? No, no, no...I want to just have it and start enjoying a big salary without any effort!"

"Wtf....everyone boots me from every job interview. Life sucks and it's not fair boohooooo"

Haha! I can see this interview:

Queue Manager: Good morning. What can we do for you today?
Lv30-ish DRK: I would like to enter Braflox Longstop
QM: Ah, very good. We always need good tanks for this instance. Your experience with the earlier dungeons will certainly help you here.
DRK: Experience?
QM: Ummm, yes. You've completed earlier dungeons as a tank? Haukke? Toto-Rak? Halatali?
DRK: I've run them as DPS
QM: Copperbell? Tam Tara.... Sastasha?
DRK: That'd be a no
QM: Hall of Novice!!??
DRK: Hall of Novice?
QM: GTF outta my office!

[Avalon1101]

What does Feast have to do with low level PvE? I said Cleric Stance is "click and forget" pre-30, which is what the subject is about. I didn't mean you'll never stance dance.

Just looked what you said in last page again, you didn't say pre30 first
The only thing you mentioned was replying someone like basic skills are kind of useless in your fight