Concerns about " Getting rid of unused and ineffective actions"

[Neophyte]

I don't think they will get rid of many skills at all, it's more about revamping them and stepping a bit away from the cross class system.


Lv. 01 Heavy Swing
Lv. 02 Foresight
Lv. 04 Skull Sunder
Lv. 06 Fracture
Lv. 08 Bloodbath
Lv. 10 Brutal Swing
Lv. 10 Role base defensive Action (Covalecenz, Featherfoot, Second Wind, Mantra)
Lv. 12 Overpower
Lv. 15 Tomahawk
Lv. 15 Role base emnity Action (Provoce, Flash(?), something new?, Savage Blade with optional rotational requirements for WAR/DRK?!)
Lv. 18 Maim
Lv. 20 Role base defensive Action (as above)
Lv. 22 Berserk
Lv. 25 Role base offensive Action (Internal Release, something new with Slashing debuff (though only interesting for PLD/DRK maybe), Haymaker (changed/buffefd), Mercy Stroke, Fracture (untraited, but with more potency))
Lv. 26 Mercy Stroke
Lv. 30 Butcher's Block
Lv. 30 Role base emnity Action (as above)
Lv. 30 Defiance
Lv. 34 Thrill of Battle
Lv. 35 Inner Beast
Lv. 38 Storm's Path
Lv. 40 Unchained
Lv. 42 Holmgang
Lv. 45 Steel Cyclone
Lv. 46 Vengeance
Lv. 50 Storm's Eye
Lv. 50 Infuriate
Lv. 52 Deliverance
Lv. 54 Fell Cleave
Lv. 56 Raw Intuition
Lv. 58 Equilibrium
Lv. 60 Decimate


Plus revamps, but basically I expect something like this, with a bit more than 5 minutes invested for thinking about it like I did.

[Khalithar]

I don't think they will get rid of many skills at all, it's more about revamping them and stepping a bit away from the cross class system.

If we're going to keep getting new skills then yes we're going to need to prune a few and maybe more than a few. A few of the "maintenance" buffs as I call them could certainly stand to go away, for example, I've said this for a while now but if Heavy Thrust, Power Surge, Straight Shot, and Hot Shot were removed as an example, nothing of value would be lost. I know about the Straighter Shot proc effect, but I really don't think it's necessary if the numbers are adjusted correctly. Another example for Drg, Brd, and Mch is they have Ring Of Thorns/Doomspike, Wide Volley/Quick Nock, and Spread Shot/Grenado Shot respectively, do those classes really need to have 2 different AoE spells? I say no, no they do not. Pick one and let the player adjust to the right positioning for when to use each.

[ADVSS]

. Pick one and let the player adjust to the right positioning for when to use each.

power surge is great the others i agree on, I personally dont see job skills being pruned but added to the ideas of the list, i would say probably flash will be taken out, fracture and skull sunder and savage blade may definately go, and be put into dps xc if at all(flash gone forever probably) relevant choices would be to put second wind on all tanks, keen flurry maybe even featherfoot, mantra as a toss up and maybe retooled for ranged physical only(mnk utility though so it may just be a mnk skill), life surge probably taken off lnc and made for melee dps...stuff like this honestly.

edits: why i saw flash is because it only benefits warrior in niche situations and we all know theyre trying to reduce war's power without crippling it completely was my reasoning its excessively useless on drk, esp based on cost vs unleash and doesnt need to be a xc skill at all

also leave my doomspike alone! its my favorite lnc skill!