There Is No Dancer (yet)

[Kurogaea]

Are shoes considered as "clothes" ? Because she kicks a lot in the trailer

Cloths, not clothes. Like fabric.

Sooooo... is Raubahn a GLD (because he uses the moveset of GLD mostly) or is he a NIN (because he wears two blades)?

Because that's the discussion right now...

Imagine you don't know Raubahn (he's a new character) and you know that the new X-Pac focusses around GLD's...
You see the Derplander (as GLD with Sword and Shield) fighting Raubahn (as GLD with Sword&Sword)...
and everyone shouts "WOW, Ninja confirmed!!!! Just look at it, it wears two weapons and [insert 15 year old picture of FF rogue npc with similarities]!!!!"

Buddy of my suspected he may be a Samurai. He has two swords, but he also shoots beams out of his blades so we don't know. Could be an NPC thing sure, but counting the possibilities is what we do when we speculate stuff. ALso you hve Rune Fencer that uses magic and swords, but we still don't know what the other sword is for.... Perhaps he's both, hence the revamped battle system on the way......Idk, mix em up. I'm goin with DRK/Samurai XP

Then you have stuff like this



From Air Master. She uses Ballerina dancing as a fighting form for most of her skills, using high speed spins as momentum builders for powerful kicks.

[Reynhart]

technically he can't wear 2 weapon anymore and even if they look like sword, ninja use 2 DAGGER.... no sword ^^

No, actually, Ninjas...dual wield. They can historically dual wields lots of things.

and this is a.... kick maybe?

And everything else is...cloths attack, right ? You're using exactly two attacks to prove your point ? I don't know who said that, but it's the same as saying that DRK use kicks and energy blast as their primary weapons because 3 attacks depicts them...and ignoring the huge sword they wield...or the simple fact that the trailer shows the two fighters mimicking each other a lot of times.

Here we go again...

1) monk chakra don't appear like this, this part of the video is more a build up effect of the cgi

So, for that, "Cutscene improvement" is a valid excuse ? But not for the blatant cinematic boost of MNK fighting style, since we know that, at least, WoL is a MNK ?

2) kick? monk have 2 kick skill over all him skill, most of him skill are punching!

Demolish kicks, Haymaker kicks, Dragon kick and Tornado Kick...well...kick. And auto-attacks kick.

3) stance? one is using a karate like stance while the other use a kung fu one. one is hard fist while the other is open palm strike that two different style.

Stance ? Like battle stance ? Like the one they share right at the beginning ? Or the fact that Fists Of Fire, Fist Of Winds and Fists of Earth use three totally different battle stance, while still being PGL/MNK skills ?

4) punch? like said before most of her punch are used open palms, but this you did miss it.

And so it doesn't make them...punches...anymore ? Your mind must have been blown when PLD and DRK used stab moves instead of slash ones...

[Balipu]

Yes, and they both use their cloths as weapons in battle.

Not really. The red woman hits the WoL with a dangling part of her outfit exactly once, while the tactics dancer carries a ribbon with her for the explicit purpose to fight with it. I mean you can draw a paralel if you really want to, but dunno.

[Lufir]

instead to find a reason of why it will not happend or why this girl can't be, accept that some point don't match up and can leave open speculation is better than act like you act right now. especially since most of your point are empty and don't work.

Uhh most of the points made in this thread in favor of the girl being a Monk seems to be quite the opposite of empty. There is visual proof. People are trying to force the square blocks into circle slots with this Dancer speculation.

[silentwindfr]

soo far none of the argument of the monk side was valid, featherfoot? not the same animation, snap punch? it's a basic direct punch, not even a monk skill but a pugilist one. fist of fire/wind? none have the same animation too....
soo far the only reason people say this is because she is a martial artist, however, they refuse to admit that she use a different weapon, have a different fighting style, have even different capacity. everytime they ignore this...

every single argument of the monk side is empty and need to be reevaluate, since most of them are not valid. the fact it's a cgi is not good since the WoL use the game animation for him skill. and he is clearly a monk.

even the simple fact that ala miggho only have 1 fighting style school for monk is ignored. she is clearly not a monk, not a monk as we are in the game. nor in the FF14 universe. that the whole point. what she are are left to speculation. but i can recognize a monk when i see one and that is not a monk. the flow, style and way to fight is too different for be one. like i have said a lot, the male (who is confirmed to be a monk) is more like earth and fire, while the red lady is more like water and wind.

SE will not add another type of weapon to a jobs existing, they will not create a whole new set of animation because of a fist/stance, because it will recquire to do it for every jobs that have a stance and will be a work more well invested into a new jobs. but this is ignored over and over and over....why? because she is a martial artist. *sighs*

ps: i love my monk, i did start as pugilist until they did added monk in the V1 and mostly did play this... and honestly say that an animation of a skill is the same when is different is tiring... it's tiring to see people coming here say stuff without even verify stuff. i want the monk to get new cool stuff and new skill/capacity. but, what she are are going against everything the monk is. the monk was called destroyer, not without reason, what she is not destruction...

[cammi]

:c

She fights too much like a monk for people to not see it. That is all the proof you need until otherwise noted. Besides it's a CGI trailer meaning it's not going to look the same as ingame. It's just not, so the best thing to do is to wait and see what is said. I'm still placing my money on monk tho.

[Kaurie]

She fights too much like a monk for people to not see it. That is all the proof you need until otherwise noted. Besides it's a CGI trailer meaning it's not going to look the same as ingame. It's just not, so the best thing to do is to wait and see what is said. I'm still placing my money on monk tho.

She fights like a Monk, which is why it is perfectly reasonable to take the stance that you think she is a Monk. That said, Silentwindfr is right in that the evidence isn't 100% compelling, and there are enough things to raise questions. That's why it's also perfectly reasonable to speculate on her being a dancer. There's no reason to bring each other down.

Statements like:
"Grasping at straws"
"People are trying to force the square blocks into circle slots with this Dancer speculation"
are neither helpful nor respectful.

[ADVSS]

well if thats REALLY dancer thats gonna be some disappointing job identity. Obviously the weapon you primarily use doesnt define your job or class in the ff 14 universe, and clearly any rational points to say that shes not a paladin are false. See that weapon in the stormblood image? clearly its a sharp short sword, therefore paladin

[Kaurie]

well if thats REALLY dancer thats gonna be some disappointing job identity. Obviously the weapon you primarily use doesnt define your job or class in the ff 14 universe.

Actually, the weapon you use primarily does define your job. That's pretty much the how the game is designed. "Change your weapon, change your job!" Based on the rest of your post, I am not sure if you're saying the first half in sarcasm as well, in defense of it being a monk? The main reason I think it is not a monk is that I've never seen a weapon quite like that on a Monk AND it's a central focus in the expansion artwork. It's either hinting at a new job, or there is some other significance of the unusual weapon.

In terms of disappointing job identity, well, look at AST. It's basically a SCH or a WHM and then you add in cards. I'm not hating on AST, but you cannot deny, it's identity is either shield or heal + buffs. Look at MCH which is eerily similar to BRD. Look at DRK which is half like a paladin, half like a warrior.

[Reynhart]

soo far none of the argument of the monk side was valid, featherfoot? not the same animation, snap punch? it's a basic direct punch, not even a monk skill but a pugilist one. fist of fire/wind? none have the same animation too....
soo far the only reason people say this is because she is a martial artist, however, they refuse to admit that she use a different weapon, have a different fighting style, have even different capacity. everytime they ignore this...

The problem is still the same. Monk already exists in the game (fact), Stormblood's focus will be on Monk (fact). If you want to prove that we're having a Dancer, and that the lady in red is a Dancer, you have to bring actual proofs of that. Proofs that could only be applied to Dancer. Kick and punch attacks are hardly dancer exclusive, the outfit is hardly dancer exclusive (In fact, one MNK set has almost the same design)...