Concerns about " Getting rid of unused and ineffective actions"

[Blood-Aki]

FATE grinding is very much a thing at 60 what with Animas.

Well i have an anima weapon, and still never bothered using it, ever, because there was no point, and even still, this is not a valid reason, i did say they will work on trash enemies, fate enemies are in that line, But being fate enemies most of the time you can just aoe them to death, Never needing to sleep. and then after that 1 stage that needs fate spamming is done, then it's back to never being used.

In other words: they are likely to change it to actually be more useful, they will still keep someway to sleep. but don't be surprised if they just get rid of it outright. or actually make strong enemies able to be slept.

[Hasrat]

Also, why are we looking at end-game content for determining what early-game skills are useful? Repose is fudging incredible if you're running with a tank that can't hold aggro because he never switches targets.

[Pintsized]

Have you ever tried Solo-Play as a BLM? Sleep is kind of essential. Really great for MSQ or FATEs.

Except that in Heavensward many of the mobs in the 'solo instance' MSQs (you know, the level-synced instanced events) are immune to CC like this.

[Alistaire]

I'm pretty sure they mean the abilites that really are near useless, I doubt many BLMs will miss that all so useful and mandatory surecast.

You know repose? that spell whm has that works on NOTHING even remotely worth it? (sleep for blm as well) yea, that may be on the chopping block.

Repose/sleep also makes certain leves manageable that wouldn't be otherwise and should definitely not be removed. Then pvp of course.

[Norleas]

I believe what they meant was getting rid of skills that are literally useless. Ones where players on the forums have asked "why does this exist?" Examples are: Featherfoot, haymaker

Haymaker and featherfoot are useful, though haymaker I think should be similar to DRK's ability after parrying and be off GCD.

[TiaHariberux3]

I'm pretty sure they mean the abilites that really are near useless, I doubt many BLMs will miss that all so useful and mandatory surecast.

You know repose? that spell whm has that works on NOTHING even remotely worth it? (sleep for blm as well) yea, that may be on the chopping block.

Its useful in soloplay and really necessary in pvp. Just because you don't need it doesn't mean others don't also if you say now "pls its pve game" then why even bother with CC at all cause you rarely ever need it in PvE. If you play blm for example not in pvp just remove the skill from the hotbar ty.

[Miles_Maelstrom]

Tempered Will won't be missed. Every time you think, hey I can avoid this if I use Tempered Will, it doesn't work on that for whatever reason.

[Lokier]

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Stone 2 is great in raids and parties... I can buff everyone at once, not one person at a time. It's a time saver, for me anyway. Stone 2... I dunno that might be okay to get rid of.
Thunder 2 is useful for me because I do a lot of leveling roulette, and if I'm nerfed down to a certain level that I can't use thunder 3, but I'm able to use thunder 2, I'm using thunder 2...

[Norleas]

Thunder 2 is useful for me because I do a lot of leveling roulette, and if I'm nerfed down to a certain level that I can't use thunder 3, but I'm able to use thunder 2, I'm using thunder 2...

Thunder 2 should just be converted into a trait instead for thunder 1, and thunder 3 should just be called thunder 2.

[Talraen]

Instead of removing sleep, I'd like to see them make it a cross-class spell for the healer role. That way, you can guarantee every dungeon party has access to it, which would let them actually make it relevant.