With Eve gone, only sub based MMOs left are FFXIV and WoW

[Catriana]

of course.

that doesn't mean I am obligated to like it or cheerlead for it.

Then...don't...buy it? You're not obligated to like it sure, nor are you obligated to buy it. That's your choice as a consumer. But to buy it and then grumble about it tends to remove any degree of sympathy. No one forced your hand.

EDIT: To list an example - I don't care much for Overwatch's prices, so I didn't buy the game. But I don't go grousing about it even though I'd like to play. Blizzard made their decision, I made mine. That's just all there is to it. *shrug*

[JMadFour]

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Well, what can I say. I love MMOs and this is the arguably the best one out there right now. so I pay the ransom.

I'm not asking for sympathy. there is nothing to be sympathetic about. SE is gonna do what SE wants to do. and at the end of the day, it is just 15 bucks and it's not like i can't afford it.

However, this doesn't mean I'm just gonna shut up and not express my preferences whenever the subject of MMO payment models comes up in discussion. and mine are B2P with Optional Subscription. Also, I'm not in here creating threads about it demanding that they change or don't change the payment model either. just responding to comments.

[Zhamkyong]

Well, what can I say. I love MMOs and this is the arguably the best one out there right now. so I pay the ransom.

I'm not asking for sympathy. there is nothing to be sympathetic about. SE is gonna do what SE wants to do. and at the end of the day, it is just 15 bucks and it's not like i can't afford it.

However, this doesn't mean I'm just gonna shut up and not express my preferences whenever the subject of MMO payment models comes up in discussion. and mine are B2P with Optional Subscription. Also, I'm not in here creating threads about it demanding that they change or don't change the payment model either. just responding to comments.

Do you want a F2P game with loads of things that we actually have in the Mogstore? Because that's how you are going to get them.

I can understand your liking for a B2P or F2P model of gaming "buy our game and play it when you want without paying anything more!" it's a very tempting message. You said it yourself, for you this is the arguably the best one out. It's not perfect, mind you, but if it is what it is for you it's because of the Sub model it has right now. From a personal experience: My MMO days started from FFXI, there i had to move to other f2p because at the time i didnt had 2 things: Money and spare time for the game. So i played what i could and i moved to one from another. There were good experiences, some were bad. At the end of the day the majority of f2p or b2p games with no sub ended being the same molk cash cow... until i came to FFXIV in 2.0.

From that personal experience i hope they dont change theyr mind and keep it with a sub fee. It keeps the game fueled for future expansions with the money we give to them, and the Mongstore only has things like mounts, glamour and a couple of things you can live without purchasing it. Also it keeps at bay a very toxic playerbase who you can find in the other games.

A MMORPG with a monthly sub it's away cheaper than the alternative, trust me.

Again, you have your opinion and i respect it, just give it a thougt.