With Eve gone, only sub based MMOs left are FFXIV and WoW

[Kyuuen]

lol the problem is F2P games do the opposite of that, sure you can "log on" for free but if you actually want to GET anywhere, you'll have to shell out some cash, usually 10x more then a sub based game, if you actually intend to stay on top.

The only f2p game i can tolerate is PSO2 and even then you have to pay for a premium that is required for you to even TRADE ITEMS to other players. but compared to others you can get by without spending a single dime on it, you'll just have to work a lot harder then others who can just toss money at sega and get everything quickly.

Oh by all means, I'm not saying they won't try to nail you to the wall elsewhere monetarily. My issue is that some people seem to think that just because you're locked out of content, you're some how not playing the game. For instance, lets say ARR went free to play; not Heavensward, but just ARR. Am I some how not playing FF XIV because I'm not in Heavensward content?

Because that seems to be what people are trying to say up above.