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  1. #1811
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    Pylfer's Avatar
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    Xanthe Dreadcasque
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 70
    So the Shire Coat is pretty trash tier right? I did the math with the updated Dervy stat weights and got the following:

    CRIT .228
    DET .176
    SkS .160

    Lore chest: STR - 131, CRIT - 78, SkS - 112 + 24 CRIT melded

    Shire chest: STR - 157, DET 82 +18 to 24 CRIT melded

    The Lore chest works out to be work a total of 172 STR with melds. The Shire Chest, with Tier 4 CRIT, works out to be worth 175 STR... We're already hitting ACC caps with the Shire pants for the most part, so would it be more worth our time to invest in the gloves, belt, or the boots? CRIT SkS, CRIT DET? I'd hate to drop 825 Scripture Tomes on a piece of equipment that is literally a 4 point upgrade.

    EDIT: My numbers were off with the NEW new stat weights, recalculating.

    NEW new weights - CRIT: .292, DET: .202, SkS: .190

    That changes things a lot actually... The lore chest with 2 Tier 5 CRIT materia works out to being worth 182 and the Shire with 2 Tier 4 CRIT materia works out too 179.42... so a little more disconcerting :P

    EDIT2: this is for the i260 iteration of the Shire shirt. The 270 would technically be an upgrade but if these numbers are right it would only outclass the Lore chest by a 10-20 points :P
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    Last edited by Pylfer; 10-16-2016 at 02:28 PM.

  2. #1812
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    Krindor's Avatar
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    U'tyada Tia
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    Odin
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    Marauder Lv 67
    Quote Originally Posted by Addychu View Post
    Hi there... I was wondering what your rotation is after this one? Getting so confused with the level 60 rotations...
    Just go by priority.
    Will Dragon Kick be up for one more rotation? If no reapply, else Bootshine.
    Will Twin Snakes be up for one more rotation? If no reapply, else True Strike
    Is there 2-5 seconds left on Demo? Reapply, if not Snap Punch
    Is there <= 3 seconds left on ToD? Reapply.
    Fill with a fracture if demo will run out before ToD and you didn't use ToD after reapplying Demo, DK and TS.
    oGCDs go off mostly when off cooldown, depending on fight.
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  3. #1813
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    Claymore Morqlae
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    Ultros
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    Monk Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Lilyth View Post
    By using Demolish so soon to fit into trick attack, you'd be clipping two ticks at least of the first Demolish. I didn't do the math but is the 10% extra from TA worth all this clipping considering you can still do a fully buffed demolish in the next rotation?
    Not sure what kind of skill speed you've got but it's pretty hard to clip demo by 2 ticks xD
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  4. #1814
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    Crocell Tula
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    Midgardsormr
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    Monk Lv 60
    594 SS and Demolish has 3 seconds left when i reapply using that opener.
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  5. #1815
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    Claymore Morqlae
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    Ultros
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    Monk Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Crocel View Post
    594 SS and Demolish has 3 seconds left when i reapply using that opener.
    Then you're fine. You want to clip at 3 sec or less. I've heard that there's a chance you can miss a tick still if it refreshes early on at the 3 sec mark due to latency or something but that's still only 1 tick missed if it's true. It doesn't tick at 0, otherwise we'd try to refresh it there more often. Demo ticks are too good to miss out on most of the time
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  6. #1816
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    DarkerOrange's Avatar
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    E'dok Edok
    World
    Masamune
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 70
    The reason you can miss a tick is that all dot ticks are on a server-side timer, and this tick occurs every 3 seconds whether you have any dots up or not. (I.e. The first dot tick of demo can be anywhere in the first 3 seconds of you applying the dot, depending on where the server tick is when you apply it.)
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  7. #1817
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    Lilyth Chan
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    Gilgamesh
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Claymore022 View Post
    Not sure what kind of skill speed you've got but it's pretty hard to clip demo by 2 ticks xD
    Yeah, in using a snap, snap, demolish opener right now. GL2 Demolish ftw.

    Also, yes. My SS has been fairly high (around 850) since all the savage drops I been getting has a ton of it ;/
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  8. #1818
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    Claymore Morqlae
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    Monk Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkerOrange View Post
    The reason you can miss a tick is that all dot ticks are on a server-side timer, and this tick occurs every 3 seconds whether you have any dots up or not. (I.e. The first dot tick of demo can be anywhere in the first 3 seconds of you applying the dot, depending on where the server tick is when you apply it.)
    Really? So you're saying my first dot tick can happen anywhere from 21-18sec? As in the tick can happen as soon as it goes up or right before the next tick is going to happen? And also the last tick can happen at 3 sec or it could possibly be at 0 sec? If that's the case then it would make sense that you're more likely to miss the last tick if it's refreshed right at 3. But that's pretty unavoidable in our openers
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    Last edited by Claymore022; 10-20-2016 at 05:40 AM.

  9. #1819
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    DarkerOrange's Avatar
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    E'dok Edok
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    Masamune
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    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Claymore022 View Post
    Really? So you're saying my first dot tick can happen anywhere from 21-18sec? As in the tick can happen as soon as it goes up or right before the next tick is going to happen? And also the last tick can happen at 3 sec or it could possibly be at 0 sec? If that's the case then it would make sense that you're more likely to miss the last tick if it's refreshed right at 3. But that's pretty unavoidable in our openers
    Yep, that is correct.
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  10. #1820
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    monchkinz's Avatar
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    Character
    Enma Hellbringer
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    Sephirot
    Main Class
    Alchemist Lv 70
    Updated 22/10/16: Added Alexander savage floor 10
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