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  1. #811
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitoseijuro View Post
    This is why Lilyth has B4B after DM. With her rotation B4B wears right when you do bootshine, so you get Demo buffed with b4b and Xpot, but not with IR.
    Im guessing it depends on ss, but according to my tests, the dm is still getting the buff from bfb.. Very tight opening though i must say xd

    Edit: i also put bfb before dm because i wanted both dm to be buffed

    @butcherboy
    Do you mean just for the opener or the whole rotation?

    EDIT 2: after a few tests it seems Ossom's opener is spiking higher than my suggested opener and spiking a tad bit higher than lilyth's.
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    Last edited by monchkinz; 08-29-2015 at 11:57 PM.

  2. #812
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    @Monch, feel free to place my opener wherever.
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  3. #813
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    @Monchi yeah both openers and 3+min sustain if you ran it. I'm sry for being a pain. I run on ps4.
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  4. #814
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    Quote Originally Posted by Butcherboy View Post
    @Monchi yeah both openers and 3+min sustain if you ran it. I'm sry for being a pain. I run on ps4.
    Sustain will be the same around 1250-1300 depending on crit. As for the opener,like i said earlier they spike around the same damage but ossom's a tad higher but estimated at 1800+ and will be at around 20sec mark instead of 15sec for lilyth's. I'm only i192 since i missed some eso early due to rl stuff.
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    I remember some pages back where someone posted when they popped Purification in A2S. Since charging up takes less time, anyone has better ideas?
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  6. #816
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    Thank you Monchi
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  7. #817
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    Quote Originally Posted by monchkinz View Post
    Sustain will be the same around 1250-1300 depending on crit. As for the opener,like i said earlier they spike around the same damage but ossom's a tad higher but estimated at 1800+ and will be at around 20sec mark instead of 15sec for lilyth's. I'm only i192 since i missed some eso early due to rl stuff.
    I have yet to math his new opener out or try it out. Ive been currently using Lilyth's and tweaking it here and there. I will say that her opener has the added effect of these leet dps numbers http://puu.sh/jRkXw/da2286c187.png

    Maybe sunday night ill give it a go
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  8. #818
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitoseijuro View Post
    I have yet to math his new opener out or try it out. Ive been currently using Lilyth's and tweaking it here and there. I will say that her opener has the added effect of these leet dps numbers http://puu.sh/jRkXw/da2286c187.png

    Maybe sunday night ill give it a go
    yeh... i wouldn't go into much of our opener, its just to there to get our gl3 up and running, once the spike drops then it will just go back to normal rotation and normal dps of 1250-1300+. I tried all the openers and like i said its mainly the spike difference in the 15-20 sec mark and that is all difference, after the opener its the same as everyone else.
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    Hi. New to the thread, but not new to the class. Just came back and wanted to ask some questions about theories on the best openers currently and foods.
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  10. #820
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    Quote Originally Posted by monchkinz View Post
    yeh... i wouldn't go into much of our opener, its just to there to get our gl3 up and running, once the spike drops then it will just go back to normal rotation and normal dps of 1250-1300+. I tried all the openers and like i said its mainly the spike difference in the 15-20 sec mark and that is all difference, after the opener its the same as everyone else.
    Thats because nothing in our rotation is erratic, its all the same, boot --> true --> demo --> dk-->tws--> snap--> boot--> true--> snap etc filling in ToD and your ogcds.

    The one thing that you can map out, is how your off globals and buffs line up in the next 2-3 minutes. How many times does ToD get IR buff or B4B when they are up. Demo usually gets B4B buff but not always IR buff. How many Off globals get IR/B4B and can you better align your opener to make the next 3 minutes better.

    Opener is always important, the highest burst should be what we want to aim for provided that it doesnt put our buffs in an awkward position down the line.

    The only reason why you think it doesnt matter because dmg looks the same in the long run is because crit RNG.
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