Red Mage = Yda?

[Roth_Trailfinder]

In another of these fan fest threads, they say something along the lines of "YoshiP says we'll meet her in 3.5" .. that alone tells us its not Yda, as we've already met Yda.

[aeoncs]

1. The male is the WoL, which was confirmed by Yoshi himself; meaning that we didn't watch a flashback or someone else's memory. The echo doesn't actually make its user part of the memory, nor does it grant them the power to change or interfere with it.
2. With Stormblood being a Monk-centric expansion, it's safe to say that the female is a monk as well. There's a very slim chance of her being a Dancer but I doubt it.
3. The female could be Yda or an entirely new character. The missing neck tattoo isn't really that big of a deal considering SE had way bigger f*ckups during previous trailer/s, e.g. featuring Hraesvelgr as the antagonist of Heavensward instead of Nidhogg. Also there could simply be ways to remove/hide the tattoo which wouldn't be that far-fetched. Still, she could also be a new character and basically be our primary story-"companion" for Stormblood, maybe the WoL gets seperated from the Scions at first? She could also be closely related to Yda. We don't really know, it's all speculation at this point and we'll have to wait until 3.5, at the least, to know for sure.

In another of these fan fest threads, they say something along the lines of "YoshiP says we'll meet her in 3.5" .. that alone tells us its not Yda, as we've already met Yda.

That really doesn't say much. I think it's pretty safe to assume that Yda isn't actually Yda, which would mean that we haven't properly met her yet.

[Roth_Trailfinder]

We might not know the "real" Yda, or everything about Yda, or even nearly as much about Yda as Papalymo knows about Yda, but I doubt that the Yda we know is a ringer for the "real" Yda. Everyone got changed somehow for their experiences in the Lifestream. Y'shtola, Thancred, they're not quite the same person they were prior to that experience. So expecting Yda (and Papalymo) to act exactly the same way they did prior to the Lifestream does not work.

And remember, all of the Scions accept that Yda is Yda. They have been fooled before (as recently as the events leading up to the main fight in 3.4) but I doubt that we are being fed another "Scions are deceived!" thing again, not quite so soon anyway.

[TheCurls]

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I don't think Yda and Papalymo went into the Lifestream, though. So of course they would not be changed like Thancred and Y'shtola.

Also, as for "getting to meet her in 3.5", I think Koji mentioned that we'll maybe "find out who she is in 3.5".

I think the running theory that it's either Yda or her sister are the two best ones. I'm excited to find out!

[Felis]

What would give you the idea shes a red mage....

Because she is wearing red, I guess.
For me, as a Red Mage her hands are too empty. No rapier.

[Derio]

Last time I checked all the ff games that I played that had a red mage used sword and spells not their fist.

The woman was clearly a dancer

[silentwindfr]

Not entirely true. Are you forgetting that battle system will get reworked? It is possible that monk will kick more. And this is a movie, you don't need to follow monk skills at max detail but movie give more freedom than in-game animations.

the trouble is the monk that fight the red lady, is using the moveset of the actual monk.
and is not like a rework, is litterally a new fighting style*monk are mostly based on move like karate and such, quite straightforward and hard hitting

while the red lady move are more like kung fu smooth and fluid. same after the monk do the charge, she do her type of charge and the move is different too totally. finally an important part, the monk are often called the fist of Rahgr not the feet haha (joking on this one)

we can argue that it's a more female type of fighting, but we know that ingame they don't make move based on sex! then since it soo much different we can argue that it's a hint to a new class. the trouble is they can't really tell us it this without spoil the reveal of the next fan fest or the 3.5.

an important point about yda and the fact she is monk. thancred until the add of the ninja was called bard, even if all he was doing was throwing dagger. then yda can perfectly use monk moveset instead of her true jobs. especially since she is secretive about who she are.

[Felis]

1. The male is the WoL, which was confirmed by Yoshi himself; meaning that we didn't watch a flashback or someone else's memory. The echo doesn't actually make its user part of the memory, nor does it grant them the power to change or interfere with it.

You can interact with the memory, but can't change the past (see all 1.0 cutscenes before the character join the Path of the Twelve)

[Radacci]

Are we sure it's Derplander ? All we know is that he is hot as hell and a lot of player saw differences between the 2 of them that could hint to new customisation of charac or, as far as we know, a all new character.


Derplander


Hot monk

I know it just a detail that can be explain by technology but Derp seems to have a scar on his forhead that the monk does not have and the face looks "longer" ^^"

really, it's been quite some time since before, why would he never change appearance? every scion does, every major patch.
derplander is in every CG clip.

[aeoncs]

We might not know the "real" Yda, or everything about Yda, or even nearly as much about Yda as Papalymo knows about Yda, but I doubt that the Yda we know is a ringer for the "real" Yda. Everyone got changed somehow for their experiences in the Lifestream. Y'shtola, Thancred, they're not quite the same person they were prior to that experience. So expecting Yda (and Papalymo) to act exactly the same way they did prior to the Lifestream does not work.

And remember, all of the Scions accept that Yda is Yda. They have been fooled before (as recently as the events leading up to the main fight in 3.4) but I doubt that we are being fed another "Scions are deceived!" thing again, not quite so soon anyway.

That's not what I was saying. I'm simply saying that Yda is not her actual name but a persona she, or someone else for her, gave her to further hide her royal ancestry. You don't really think that the Ala Mhigan Anastasia has a name such as Yda, right? *g*
Her strange behaviour towards Gundobald and him talking about how Yda was full of fire and always ready for a mission 20+ years ago is a dead giveaway that there is, or was a person called Yda who was part of the resistance and that's definitely not the Yda we know. Also, as someone else already said, neither Yda nor Papalymo entered the Lifestream.
Apart from that, I don't really know yet how it all ties together and how our Yda relates to the one Gundobald was talking about.

Last time I checked all the ff games that I played that had a red mage used sword and spells not their fist.

The woman was clearly a dancer

Last time I checked all the FF games I've played that had a Dancer in them, they used dances, magic, daggers/short swords or even staves, not powerful punches or kicks, let alone being able to use Chakra.
She is clearly a monk, with the very, very slight possibility of being a Dancer.

You can interact with the memory, but can't change the past (see all 1.0 cutscenes before the character join the Path of the Twelve)

Fighting someone is a little bit more than interacting with a memory (;
The echo also doesn't allow its user to simply switch places with someone who was actually present.