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    actually it will make a lot of sense, you will have the monk, based on a lot of fist attack and more earth/fire stance. the dancer itself can be more fluid have wind and water stance explaining the opposition.

    Quote Originally Posted by KerenRhys View Post
    That still doesn't justify to show a "new job" using Monk moves. If that was a new job, they would only use moves of that job. Doing otherwise would be stupid.

    No we don't, even less so when there are reports coming from the fan fest that officials have confirmed that it was a 2 monks fight. You can belive that the reports are lies or mistakes, but without being there to deny them, it only gives credency to the red woman is monk opinion.
    and it don't justify to have a monk with a totally different fighting style! that the whole point, her whole fighting style is the antithese of the monk style! monk is rough and power, when she is fluid and agile. we know that they will never do a different moveset based on sex.... then like said it don't leave a lot of choice

    plus and that the most important, they don't want to spoil them announcement.... then they can say whatever they want. when i have see the girl in red and i'm not only one in this case, it didn't scream monk..... it did scream i'm dancing!
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    Quote Originally Posted by KerenRhys View Post
    If that woman was a dancer, it would make no sense to have her use Shoudertackle, featherfoot and fists of wind moves. And there are multiples times in the teaser where both use the same move (like the high kick lock they have).
    The high kick (I assume you're talking about the one where they both do it at the same time) part, that's actually shows that while they are both kicks done while spinning around, they are of different styles (look at his final pose versus her final pose...different styles often share types of strikes, but the position of the rest of the body can differ quite a bit).

    Really watch her fighting style. It has more in common with a Kung Fu style seen in films like Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon than it does with the Monk style.

    I think proclaiming that she is 100% a Monk right now, without further information or clarification, is simply premature, and conclusions that say she is a Monk are ignoring the aspects of her fighting style that don't match up with how Monks fight.
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    The trailer showed two monks and someone who looks a lot like Yda (either it is her, or it's a relative imo).

    If it's a RDM then I'll be pretty disappointed (I'm very certain it's not a RDM though), since there's hardly anything about her that resembles what a Red Mage is. Dancer is even more likely, despite the fact they are both portrayed as Monks in combat. I'd accept Dancer, but I'm not going to say it's confirmed or hinted until there's more evidence.
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    she never do shoulder tackles if you look carefully, plus feather foot was shown as one of the skill that will be changed/replaced for the monk with stormblood and i will not even be surprise that fist of the wind (that are not that often used) to be take out or changed

    the teaser by itself don't say a lot, but with the info given to the keynote we can understand that this red lady is not a monk. what she is can be debated but we will have the answer sooner or later.

    anyway, we can only look at the fact that the two character have totally different fighting style and like said before! SE don't have the man power for change the style of moveset based on the sex, nor make the monk (that one of the jobs that are the less needing stuff) get a skill that will make the whole monk move change. you have 13+2-3 jobs to work on, it's way too heavy for only one jobs.

    finally we only do get 10 new level at best 5 new skill/trait not enough for explain soo many change.

    by itself the teaser don't give anything, even if everything scream kung fu and dance more than the actual monk we have that is more a karate fighter. but with what have said yoshida is possible to take a guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    she never do shoulder tackles if you look carefully, plus feather foot was shown as one of the skill that will be changed/replaced for the monk with stormblood and i will not even be surprise that fist of the wind (that are not that often used) to be take out or changed
    That still doesn't justify to show a "new job" using Monk moves. If that was a new job, they would only use moves of that job. Doing otherwise would be stupid.

    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    the teaser by itself don't say a lot, but with the info given to the keynote we can understand that this red lady is not a monk.
    No we don't, even less so when there are reports coming from the fan fest that officials have confirmed that it was a 2 monks fight. You can belive that the reports are lies or mistakes, but without being there to deny them, it only gives credency to the red woman is monk opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KerenRhys View Post
    No we don't, even less so when there are reports coming from the fan fest that officials have confirmed that it was a 2 monks fight. You can belive that the reports are lies or mistakes, but without being there to deny them, it only gives credency to the red woman is monk opinion.
    Reports that are, as of right now, not substantiated.

    I have the pass, I can rewatch the Keynote as often as I like (in fact, I'll go do that and edit in what Koji-Fox said verbatim as he was translating Yoshida). Unless it was said in Japanese and not translated fully, what was said was that much like how the WoL became a Dragoon in Heavensward, the main class for Stormblood will be Monk. That's it. There was no "there was 2 Monks fighting in the trailer" comment in the Keynote, and so far that's the only place I've seen where people claim it was said.

    If it was said elsewhere, we have yet to see any proof.

    Editing in what was said in the Keynote - "Back for 3.0, in Heavensward, the Warrior of Light, our trailer hero here, his main job was Dragoon. How many people main job Monk? How many Monks do we have in here? [cheering] That's right, our main job, for 4.0, the Monk. All right, we're gonna move on to the next section."

    I'm checking the rest of the Keynote to see if there's another mention, but as of right now reports of "confirmed 2 Monks fighting" is hearsay, and sadly reports like that from these events end up being wrong as often as they end up being right, so without a more substantial source it's honestly best to treat reports of that nature with a healthy amount of skepticism.
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    Seems like there is some real desperation for dancer in this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aillith View Post
    Seems like there is some real desperation for dancer in this thread.
    Desperation? Or just recognizing that what we saw wasn't 100% Monk, so there's room for doubt either way?

    Honestly, seems there's just as much desperation to say she's 100% a Monk as there is to say she's 100% a Dancer, despite evidence pointing in both directions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berethos View Post
    Desperation? Or just recognizing that what we saw wasn't 100% Monk, so there's room for doubt either way?

    Honestly, seems there's just as much desperation to say she's 100% a Monk as there is to say she's 100% a Dancer, despite evidence pointing in both directions.
    Yeah, it could go either way, though, no matter how many times I re-watch it, I still see a Dancer doing dancer like stuff ( along with monk like moves and even cloth/dagger like moves) She does clearly use Her fabric as a weapon, and the animation is of a slash ( not blunt).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qojon View Post
    That was my first impression but there's no neck tattoo.
    It's covered by the necklace, and probably on purpose. I think they wanted us to think it was Yda.
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