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  1. #11
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    Besame's Avatar
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    Calista Fallon
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    Bard Lv 100
    Don't automatically assume I didn't look for info Taika. All I found at the time was a sped up vid with no sound. You are most ikely among the myriad of players that faceroll every run and speak to noone. I didn't expect anything but a couple tips at bosses but that's the way it is here. Toxic attitudes if there is a mistake otherwise silence in every run. Common sense would dictate that if someone in the party had run it, being brand new content, they would ask if anyone needed info at boss. I told them, they remained silent.
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  2. #12
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    Synth Istituto
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    Siren
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    Arcanist Lv 85
    Thrive*

    I do think that there should be some kind of disciplinary action in place in the game for behavior indicative of being negative and intentionally putting people down but thats just me and the culture that I embody (my opinion). Just grow a thick skin and try not to let it bother you too much. Play how you want and do what you want to do in game. Its always your choice.
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  3. #13
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    Advent Shadowsoul
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    Zalera
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Besame View Post
    Don't automatically assume I didn't look for info Taika. All I found at the time was a sped up vid with no sound. You are most ikely among the myriad of players that faceroll every run and speak to noone. I didn't expect anything but a couple tips at bosses but that's the way it is here. Toxic attitudes if there is a mistake otherwise silence in every run. Common sense would dictate that if someone in the party had run it, being brand new content, they would ask if anyone needed info at boss. I told them, they remained silent.
    99 percent of the time im on discord with friends, fc mates or other people in the party, usually someone has to remind me about stuff in party chat in those runs as im usually just focused on rotations or stuff, esp if im tanking, not really our fault that a in game voice isnt offered but thats how it is.
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  4. #14
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    Taika's Avatar
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    Purple Rain
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    Sophia
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    Arcanist Lv 32
    Quote Originally Posted by Besame View Post
    Don't automatically assume I didn't look for info Taika. All I found at the time was a sped up vid with no sound. You are most ikely among the myriad of players that faceroll every run and speak to noone.
    Haha yeah talking about assuming things....

    FYI just the other day we had an A9N run with many players who had no experience or info whatsoever. We did not tell them the mechanics beforehand (because they didn't ask and we specifically didn't want to spoil), but instead just tried the fight. After a couple of wipes we started to give hints to specific things, and the group progressed further, until we finally beat it after I think 5 tries. We had a good atmosphere in the group, we were laughing and using emotes, and after the kill everyone posted their thanks and goodbyes. Personally I believe this was much better experience than us just explaining everything before even a first try, since the party members new to the fight would have missed the possibility of trying it out for themself and trying to figure out the mechanics.
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  5. #15
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    Calista Fallon
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    Bard Lv 100
    Noone laughed, noone used emotes, I guess you got lucky. I don't expect everything to be explained so don't assume again, Just perhaps a sentence saying something pertinant to boss would of been nice. All my FC members say that dungeons in pugs are like that. Faceroll with silence is the way of this game.
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  6. #16
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    Taika's Avatar
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    Purple Rain
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    Sophia
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    Arcanist Lv 32
    I agree that there is a lot of silence in group content in this game, but my own experience isn't nearly as bad as it seems to have been for you. For my own part, I always try to advance what I consider as good gaming culture, as in greeting people I'm grouping with, encouraging and giving advice when asked etc. Not that I'm anywhere near perfect, and I don't always have the energy to be very active socially. But I think the best thing you can do is, be the change you want to see. Maybe with your good example you can inspire others to act the same way.
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  7. #17
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    Cafe Miel
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    Faerie
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    Many people are not good at taking criticism or handling failure, whether that's in the workplace or in a videogame. I'm sure we've all seen the real-world equivalent at some point flip out on the job or in class. Granted, no one likes to wipe to the same mechanic over and over. Fang and Claw was a nightmare in PUGs.
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  8. #18
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    Nyghtmarerobu's Avatar
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    Liaysa Sineos
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    Exodus
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Besame View Post
    Noone laughed, noone used emotes, I guess you got lucky. I don't expect everything to be explained so don't assume again, Just perhaps a sentence saying something pertinant to boss would of been nice. All my FC members say that dungeons in pugs are like that. Faceroll with silence is the way of this game.
    So I guess the question is what do you expect? What fanciful things do you want the entire playerbase to fufill for you?
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  9. #19
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    Aillith Odendaal
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    Tonberry
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    OP - I have a question for you. You state that you told them that you hadn't done the run before. Thats nice, but communicates very little.

    Did you actually ask them to explain anything to you or did you just expect them to assume your needs and desires?

    Many people like blind running something for the first time for the experience of learning on the go. Cause in a game of scripted rotations you don't often get that chance. So if you didn't ask for it... then don't be surprised if you didn't get it.
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  10. #20
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    Aillith Odendaal
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    Tonberry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Besame View Post
    You are most ikely among the myriad of players that faceroll every run and speak to noone.
    You speak of toxic attitudes then spit vitriol yourself when someone doesn't 100% see it your way.

    I hope you see the hypocrisy here.
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