A12 savage World first 3 days after patch

[Frederick22]

Velhart, didnt you were complaining about the difficulty of Midas on older threads?

Now you are complaining about how the creator is super easy?


LOL >_<

[Velhart]

Velhart, didnt you were complaining about the difficulty of Midas on older threads?

Now you are complaining about how the creator is super easy?


LOL >_<

I never said Midas was too difficult or Creator was super easy. Please do not put words in my mouth. My complaint is SE's answer to fixing raids is lowering difficulty when they need to make better learning curves around it and make things healther in the midcore department.

I am critical on how it is structured, but that doesn't mean lower the difficulty. Please pay attention to what I am trying to say. Its all about increase in midcore content.

[Frederick22]

I never said Midas was too difficult or Creator was super easy. Please do not put words in my mouth. My complaint is SE's answer to fixing raids is lowering difficulty when they need to make better learning curves around it and make things healther in the midcore department.

I am critical on how it is structured, but that doesn't mean lower the difficulty. Please pay attention to what I am trying to say. Its all about increase in midcore content.

I just triedresume what you said on a few words . Not exacly what you said on the older comments but more or less it was that.

I found amaising how players complain of everything on raid.
The creator so far was the better middle ground that could being found, fixing the issues that gordias and midas have.

Still people seem that dont like it. Oh well.

[Pasquale]

From my point of view as a semi-hardcore raider , Gordias was the max difficult for a Savage raid ( i liked it anyway cuz i had satisfaction when i cleared before patch) that was maybe too much cuz u needed 8 perfect people . MIDAS is the RIGHT difficult for a raid , moderate dps check that becomes low when u are full 240 moderate difficult mechanics so u can clear it ( and we did it ) with not pro people just need coordination. CREATOR lol. What i really don't understand is why people judged midas too hard ( they even nerfed a6s o.o)

[Velhart]

I just resume what you said. Not quite exacly what you said on older comments but more or less it was that.

So again its just an assumption. Only thing Gordias/Mida are guilty of is not having a proper midcore level of difficulty before it, which on a average midcore player level, they can be looked upon as too difficult. That does not mean they needed to change. It is the content before it that needs to be changed. Savage before now had over the top requirements from people who engaged in previous content before it.

I actually think Creator Savage is the perfect level of difficulty for a proper Hard mode. At least at the point I am at right now. Its challenging and good coordination, but it is not punishing to a level that Savage would normally give. If there was a difficulty bump on top of this one, that would be some mighty fine raid structuring.

[Frederick22]

So again its just an assumption. Only thing Gordias/Mida are guilty of is not having a proper midcore level of difficulty before it, which on a average midcore player level, they can be looked upon as too difficult. That does not mean they needed to change. It is the content before it that needs to be changed. Savage before now had over the top requirements from people who engaged in previous content before it.

I actually think Creator Savage is the perfect level of difficulty for a proper Hard mode. At least at the point I am at right now. Its challenging and good coordination, but it is not punishing to a level that Savage would normally give. If there was a difficulty bump on top of this one, that would be some mighty fine raid structuring.

The issue is that if a savage level is made, people need deserve to have a bigger reward. That is something that gordias's problems had, very difficult for little reward.

[Pasquale]

The issue is that if a savage level is made, people need deserve to have a bigger reward. That is something that gordias's problems had, very difficult for little reward.

Well that's the point , if there is low reward , and u can see everything from normal mode , why softcore raider should aim to clear it o.o that's why savage should exist to have a challenge , to make a sense for the max lv gear to be used , whats the challenge when u have gear u dont need , what's thr challenge when u can clear with 10 death( we did a10s with 10 dead ppl) whats the challenge if u can have 2 dps completly afk during dps check.

[IllyriaKnotfred]

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You can spew nonsense about how Midas was the perfect difficulty all you want- but the clear rate shows otherwise. Many statics broke up over the difficulty curve in Midas. So you can sit there all day and go "People need to get good", it doesn't change anything. Midas, while not as big a failure as Gordias, was still a failure as far as SE was concerned as it still divided the raiding player base.
If you honestly hate it so much, just unsub and stop playing? You sound so distraught over the fact (GOD FORBID) more people are raiding content and being successful than ever before. Or keep playing and understand this simple truth (That will not ever change)- The more people raiding, progressing, clearing content, and enjoying themselves = a successful raid tier.

[Yukiko]

(..) what's thr challenge when u can clear with 10 death( we did a10s with 10 dead ppl) whats the challenge if u can have 2 dps completly afk during dps check. (..)

There is NO rpg in history where you need to preform 100% like a machine without any failures!
If you seek for such a game, then you should ask if you play the right genre - mostly those are called puzzle games!
Hell, even in pure action games like streetfighter you can recover from failures or look at other games where you get slow motion for pressing the needed keys!
For me it looks like you search something like Tomp Raider or Prince of Persia - maybe thats a better game for you...

[Pasquale]

There is NO rpg in history where you need to preform 100% like a machine without any failures!
If you seek for such a game, then you should ask if you play the right genre - mostly those are called puzzle games!
Hell, even in pure action games like streetfighter you can recover from failures or look at other games where you get slow motion for pressing the needed keys!
For me it looks like you search something like Tomp Raider or Prince of Persia - maybe thats a better game for you...

No i want back the game as it was.. There is no rpg in the hystory bla bla.. LOL the rpg in question was this 1 some week ago xD