A12 savage World first 3 days after patch

[Pasquale]

So, why haven't you cleared yet, if it's so easy?

Actually at a12s we are raiding 5 hours each day lol

[ADVSS]

idk about you guys but i feel like im gonna try savage for once this time. they did some really good things that were suggested, different looking gear from story to savage mode, also the weapons look really awesome, though i feel like they shouldve added a bridge quest for the relic but oh well. I know for a fact that just because world first prog groups cleared it in a couple days wont mean its just that easy, but it looks like something thats obtainable with a good amount of effort

[Pasquale]

From my point of view as a semi-hardcore raider , Gordias was the max difficult for a Savage raid ( i liked it anyway cuz i had satisfaction when i cleared before patch) that was maybe too much cuz u needed 8 perfect people . MIDAS is the RIGHT difficult for a raid , moderate dps check that becomes low when u are full 240 moderate difficult mechanics so u can clear it ( and we did it ) with not pro people just need coordination. CREATOR lol. What i really don't understand is why people judged midas too hard ( they even nerfed a6s o.o)

[IllyriaKnotfred]

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You can spew nonsense about how Midas was the perfect difficulty all you want- but the clear rate shows otherwise. Many statics broke up over the difficulty curve in Midas. So you can sit there all day and go "People need to get good", it doesn't change anything. Midas, while not as big a failure as Gordias, was still a failure as far as SE was concerned as it still divided the raiding player base.
If you honestly hate it so much, just unsub and stop playing? You sound so distraught over the fact (GOD FORBID) more people are raiding content and being successful than ever before. Or keep playing and understand this simple truth (That will not ever change)- The more people raiding, progressing, clearing content, and enjoying themselves = a successful raid tier.

[Pasquale]

The issue is that if a savage level is made, people need deserve to have a bigger reward. That is something that gordias's problems had, very difficult for little reward.

Well that's the point , if there is low reward , and u can see everything from normal mode , why softcore raider should aim to clear it o.o that's why savage should exist to have a challenge , to make a sense for the max lv gear to be used , whats the challenge when u have gear u dont need , what's thr challenge when u can clear with 10 death( we did a10s with 10 dead ppl) whats the challenge if u can have 2 dps completly afk during dps check.

[Yukiko]

(..) what's thr challenge when u can clear with 10 death( we did a10s with 10 dead ppl) whats the challenge if u can have 2 dps completly afk during dps check. (..)

There is NO rpg in history where you need to preform 100% like a machine without any failures!
If you seek for such a game, then you should ask if you play the right genre - mostly those are called puzzle games!
Hell, even in pure action games like streetfighter you can recover from failures or look at other games where you get slow motion for pressing the needed keys!
For me it looks like you search something like Tomp Raider or Prince of Persia - maybe thats a better game for you...

[Pasquale]

There is NO rpg in history where you need to preform 100% like a machine without any failures!
If you seek for such a game, then you should ask if you play the right genre - mostly those are called puzzle games!
Hell, even in pure action games like streetfighter you can recover from failures or look at other games where you get slow motion for pressing the needed keys!
For me it looks like you search something like Tomp Raider or Prince of Persia - maybe thats a better game for you...

No i want back the game as it was.. There is no rpg in the hystory bla bla.. LOL the rpg in question was this 1 some week ago xD

[Pasquale]

You can spew nonsense about how Midas was the perfect difficulty all you want- but the clear rate shows otherwise. Many statics broke up over the difficulty curve in Midas. So you can sit there all day and go "People need to get good", it doesn't change anything. Midas, while not as big a failure as Gordias, was still a failure as far as SE was concerned as it still divided the raiding player base.
If you honestly hate it so much, just unsub and stop playing? You sound so distraught over the fact (GOD FORBID) more people are raiding content and being successful than ever before. .

The point u still don't get is... Ok make it easier but NOT that easier , i mean is ok if some1 fail a mechanic , some1 may die but man .. I should link u our a10s clear where both tank died at start and we had 10!! 10!! Death that was the clear.. Are we serious??

[Pasquale]

1 last thing , i wish to know how many of these people who says the difficult is ok cleared a9s and a10s at least , looks like people judging how the content is without even trying it . i'm the 1 who can say how is it because i cleared 3 floors and i have friends i the first party who cleared a12s , i cleared all the fights before so i can compare the difficult.. What about the guys who didn't try yet

[IllyriaKnotfred]

You just don't get it

While there are only two difficulties in the raid tier, this is exactly how it should be. You just sound like someone who so clearly wants to be in some high end group of players while everyone else is simply left behind because you're just above them. Well guess what? You're not. You're in such a tiny part of the games population that what you're capable of doing simply doesn't matter. Get this through your head. The more people clearing content when there are only two difficulties the better. That's it, that's all- nothing more needs to be said. ONCE (if) there is ever a third difficulty added- then, and only then, can you come into the forums and moan and complain about the games difficulty.