Yoshi-P on Character Growth

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So you’d just chose to follow the optimal build. Me doing a more personal build will have no effect on you. Unless you’re one of those people that thinks “optimal or worthless”…in that case, first, you’re wrong, and second, I’ll just won’t play with that kind of players. Which is good, since Duty Finder and Raid Finder allow me just that.

Actually, it would. Since a system like they would basically sap a massive amount of their resources. And no, I do not. However, if you go into Savage with a sub-optimal build and aren't able to keep us with everyone else, I'll ask you to change.

Would you stay subbed if they add several jobs, knowing full that even in extreme primals or savage, party composition doesn’t matter ? Would you stay subbed to gather every BiS item, knowing that, even in extreme primals or savage, entry gear is far enough to clear ?

Those aren't the same comparisons. New jobs are fundamentally different despite some similarities in their role. You aren't going to play a Dark Knight or Astro the same as Warrior or White Mage. Character builds inherently lack the same versatility because it makes little from a cost perspective develop abilities that may never get touched. And if you have enough unique concepts, you may as well convert them into an actual role, which will be of greater interest to the average player.

You absolutely don’t know that, in fact. You have no idea how far they could put a talent system in this game.

Yes, I do, because content in this game is easy. You can make the most in-depth customization in MMO history. If the vast majority of content can be facerolled, it becomes meaningless as every single build you make will achieve the exact same results. Compare it to FFVIII's junction system. I can break it within a few hours, thus the whole system becomes pointless.

Just type “Gordias Savage PLD” on YouTube, you’ll see a lot of 1-year old video of Gordias clear with Savage, before any adjustments. People really tend to overdramatize PLD’s previous position.

And? I explicitly said there were outliners. That doesn't mean they weren't still decidedly third place and frequently ignored.

Yes, that’s why you can’t do Savage unless you’re BiS already (Hint : you can)
That’s also why you can’t do Savage unless you fit in the perfect party setup (Hint: you can)
Oh, and by the way, you don’t demand anything in Raid Finder.

You can also queue in as a premade with any composition you fancy. Doesn't mean it will work. The discussion here is specifically sub-optimal builds. You are intentionally gimping yourself for no other reason than you prefer it. Maybe you'll find a group who doesn't care, but chances are you will asked to play at an optimal level when Savage is relevant. Once again, look at STR vs. VIT or FFXI as a whole. The community decided which were better and it gradually became the norm. Blade & Soul and other games have similar issues.