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    Player Brian_'s Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clover_Blake View Post
    But, considering that new raids (which require a higher ilv) will come in few months, why would people stop caring for their gear in the current patch? Wouldn't they want to obtain the best gear just to be ready for the next challenge?

    What's more, glamour or items you simply use for showing off purposes are important for most players in every game I've seen. Exclusive items that prove that you've done this or that content are a must, and this game has them.
    Because the gear is useless in the next patch. On day 1, people who care will be i250 without killing a single enemy.

    And the glamour doesn't matter when you can go back into the content with i250 gear, faceroll it with echo, and get the same glamour in a fraction of the time.
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    Clover Blake
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian_ View Post
    Because the gear is useless in the next patch. On day 1, people who care will be i250 without needing to kill a single enemy.

    And the glamour doesn't matter when you can go back into the content with i250 gear and faceroll it with echo.
    So the problem is, then, that there's "too much content and too often". Basically, what I said earlier; you'd rather get super good gear once and then not have any reason to touch the game in a long time O_O

    As for facerolling content, old content becomes "easier" (which doesn't really mean easy for most, as the majority still hasn't beat Savage modes), because there are new challenges released, aka new top gear and new exclusive items that only a few will initially get.
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    Karuru Karu
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clover_Blake View Post
    So the problem is, then, that there's "too much content and too often". Basically, what I said earlier; you'd rather get super good gear once and then not have any reason to touch the game in a long time O_O
    you have understand nothing.

    the best in slot gear is ilvl 240. that's the gear from alex savage turn 5 to 8. raiders could farm these gear, that would get raiders something to do for weeks: farming the BiS gear and preparing for the next raid tier. BUT when they release the next raid tier, they also release craftet ilvl 250 gear. this gear is in any case superior to the old BiS gear. so there is no point in farming the BiS raidgear, because on patchday all raiders get the new ilvl 250 gear and throwing their ilvl 240 gear away.
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    Last edited by Tint; 09-26-2016 at 06:58 PM.

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    Luna Faye
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    you have understand nothing.

    the best in slot gear is ilvl 240. that's the gear from alex savage turn 5 to 8. raiders could farm these gear, that would get raiders something to do for weeks: farming the BiS gear and preparing for the next raid tier. BUT when they release the next raid tier, they also release craftet ilvl 250 gear. this gear is in any case superior to the old BiS gear. so there is no point in farming the BiS raidgear, because on patchday all raiders get the new ilvl 250 gear and throwing their ilvl 240 gear away.
    You don't understand the concept either, but I don't blame you because somehow with patch 2.4 people threw the meaning of actual BiS (BEST in slot) out of the window and adapted of calling everything with an higher ilvl - BiS.
    Therefore I can understand why you are complaining about the ilvl 250 gear are being made available to everyone after the servers go back online.

    Now actual raiders don't care, because the mix and match of the actual gear sets, still outweigh the stats on the ilvl 250 gear. Sure there will be sets, just like in every other patch, that gives 1 or 2 classes the ability to go unsub since all they have to do is buying the crafted gear and meld it and wait for their team mates to catch up.

    However it's not for every class like that and all it does, is giving people that haven't played the "old" raids the opportunity of jumping right into the patch cycle, buy gear, run the new dungeons/raid for better gear. For the "real" raider it doesn't matter if your 7 neighbors got their gear from the market board or farmed that gear, the gear becomes outdated the moment you set foot into the new raid content. If you are one of the people that actually farmed their gear prior, you won't have to bother of even getting the ilvl 250 crafted gear and can focus on other stuff.

    You see the difference in raiders that don't stress about the patch and "raiders" that seem to care about an ilvl raise due to crafted gear on patch day?
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    Will Brannigan
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by LunaFaye View Post
    You see the difference in raiders that don't stress about the patch and "raiders" that seem to care about an ilvl raise due to crafted gear on patch day?
    I've cleared every raid before catchup patches and have been pretty much constantly raiding since 2.0 release but thanks for telling me what I don't care about.
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    Lilli Karani
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by LunaFaye View Post
    Therefore I can understand why you are complaining about the ilvl 250 gear
    Uhm. No. With the exception of a very rare amount of pieces, higher iLvl is better as: main stats outweights sec stats.

    Tint did understood the issue correct.
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