Yoshi-P on Character Growth

[Khemorex]

even if they change the system , u will still come here cry that ur bored everytime so whats the point in changing the system :P

id rather have new dungeons and stuff every 3 months :P

[Lunavi]

He definitely makes some valid points. I agree and could definitely see how creating mechanics which are more difficcult to catcch up with could ruin this game. Want to join Savage runs? Sorry, but you haven't been playing 8 hours everyday for the last 3 years, you are simply underleveled.

Because I assume the relevant endgame content would be tuned towards that, otherwise all experienced players would ragequit as all content that is released or ever will be released would be too ez.

[ADVSS]

even if they change the system , u will still come here cry that ur bored everytime so whats the point in changing the system :P

id rather have new dungeons and stuff every 3 months :P

weve decided to rework lords of verminion this patch, here some new level 1 mastercrafter glamours to craft for exhorbitant amounts of gil, old dungeon(hard) mode and a ex primal to beat around for 3 months. Feel free to unsub after you clear it in a week, as we got no new gear for 6 months thats relevamt! Please look forward to it!

He definitely makes some valid points. I agree and could definitely see how creating mechanics which are more difficcult to catcch up with could ruin this game. Want to join Savage runs? Sorry, but you haven't been playing 8 hours everyday for the last 3 years, you are simply underleveled.

Because I assume the relevant endgame content would be tuned towards that, otherwise all experienced players would ragequit as all content that is released or ever will be released would be too ez.

NO FIRST TIME BONUS!!!!!!!

[Reynhart]

even if they change the system , u will still come here cry that ur bored everytime so whats the point in changing the system :P

Imagine this :
ARR comes, the tomestone system is introduced, it's new (for this game, coming from 1.0), it's fresh. 2 years later, I'm starting to get bored...and then HW comes, with a whole new gearing system. It's fresh, it's new...2 years later, I'm starting to get bored, and then the new expansion come, etc...etc...

Instead, we have ARR with the tome system, boring after 2 years...HW with the same system, incredibly boring after 2 more years...and the next expansion will probably still use the tomestone system.

A new gearing system is like having new zones or new jobs. I'm sure you would have been bored if HW made you stroll into the same old zones for 2 more years.

He definitely makes some valid points. I agree and could definitely see how creating mechanics which are more difficcult to catcch up with could ruin this game. Want to join Savage runs? Sorry, but you haven't been playing 8 hours everyday for the last 3 years, you are simply underleveled.

Horizontal progression is not a "catch up" mechanic. Let's say you needed an Ice weapon for Gordias Savage(For whatever reason)...but this NEW Fire Weapon for Midas Savage...Wether you participate in Gordias or not, you can obtain the Fire Weapon and completely skip the Ice Weapon. And while you're bored 3.2, you can always comes back to get this Ice Weapon that could be useful for Creator or even the next raid.

As we are now, you need this Fire Weapon (i.e new tome gear), but you'll never go back to the Ice weapon even if you have nothing new to do.

[Derio]

People will complain regardless. He is right about the new era though. Most people who do complain though play ffxiv for about 5+ hours a day.

And then there are the people who like yoshi said who want ffxiv to be a copy of ffxi

[Reynhart]

And then there are the people who like yoshi said who want ffxiv to be a copy of ffxi

As a long time FFXI player (In the old times), I can assure you that I don't want this game to be FFXI-2.

BUT, some ideas from FFXI could be done in FFXIV for good results. Were the Diadem some kind of Dynamis, with multiple objectives and a real sense of progression, but without the horrendous droprate for job armor, I'm sure it would have been more successful. And horizontal progression would prevent gear decay like it is now.

He is right about the new era though.

This is what I fear : The "new era" contains a lot of "fast-food" MMO players. They chose the last hyped game, faceroll it as much as they can, and leave en masse when the next hype starts. So, from my point of view, Yoshi-P is doing everything he can to please people who will quit the game as soon as the MMO fashion shifts...while displeasing most veteran MMO players, who will leave because the lack of required dedication will prevent them from building a real connection with their character.

[Kallera]

People will complain regardless. He is right about the new era though. Most people who do complain though play ffxiv for about 5+ hours a day.

And then there are the people who like yoshi said who want ffxiv to be a copy of ffxi

You do not speak for me anymore than Yoshi does.

[Khemorex]

weve decided to rework lords of verminion this patch, here some new level 1 mastercrafter glamours to craft for exhorbitant amounts of gil, old dungeon(hard) mode and a ex primal to beat around for 3 months. Feel free to unsub after you clear it in a week, as we got no new gear for 6 months thats relevamt! Please look forward to it!



NO FIRST TIME BONUS!!!!!!!

the time im gona unsub is when my rl dosnt allow me to play like i want anymore :P

[Balipu]

Just an idea. More character growth doesn't have to be a long term goal after leveling. You could get a sphere grid or any similar final fantasy style variation of a talent system while you are leveling. Problem solved.

[Kallera]

Just an idea. More character growth doesn't have to be a long term goal after leveling. You could get a sphere grid or any similar final fantasy style variation of a talent system while you are leveling. Problem solved.

Just...forget providing any more suggestions to the devs. they aren't listening. They want to stay with their 2 tomestone dungeons and 4.5 raid bosses, and who are we to say otherwise.

Oh! we must be ffxi fans! Sitting in our Qufim islands wondering when the wights are going to show up. Well excuse me, oh savior of Sqaure Enix, maybe I just can't ever understand the point of being wedged in between the whole tedious tomestone dog and implacable raid pony show you have going on up in here.