Summoner revamp

[ZhaneX]

Y'know, it actually would be kind of nice if the reason for the disappearance and silence on the previously discussed "Egi Glamour" system, was because they were taking Summoner back and reworking it for 4.0.

But that's probably hopeless optimism.

[DaulBan]

Y'know, it actually would be kind of nice if the reason for the disappearance and silence on the previously discussed "Egi Glamour" system, was because they were taking Summoner back and reworking it for 4.0.

But that's probably hopeless optimism.

If they can't even get egi glamors out an expansion later, I don't think they would be able to revamp the entire class

[Jandor]

If they can't even get egi glamors out an expansion later, I don't think they would be able to revamp the entire class

Maybe we're not getting egi glamours because they're revamping the whole class.

[Leigaon]

I think the issue here is simply that there is no place for a big huge kill-everything summon where you bring it up and it wrecks house...

Sad to admit it but you're right. I am one who references FFXI SMN so I have to admit, I would love to have Titan come out raise both his fists and slam the ground killing a large pack. You're right, there is no place for this, not just from XI but, across the series. The trances are a good style, for those primals I feel we shouldn't have the ability to summon but can at least tap into some of their power. With the way things are set up (Trinity System, major focus on DPS over Enfeebling / Party Enhancement) do you think they a lot room to add something in that isn't just a re-skinned version of what's already there? If not, would it be best to only go so far with what is added for nostalgia purposes? I have no idea..

[Masekase_Hurricane]

I think you should get your summons chigoe size lmao :P

[DaulBan]

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Hopefully trances give you the thing you desire in terms of variety, but it's not looking good. The QoL changes that they got in 3.0 make them much more fun to use (imo) but unless trances become more involved, we're probably just going to see more DoT related things. Here's hoping we get more variety than that, but only Yoshi-p knows for sure.

[Awful]

http://www.icy-veins.com/wow/demonol...owns-abilities I know this is WoW and all but they changed demonology warlock (if you've played wow before) to where the warlock summons demons and keeps them buffed while they do all the damage. I posted their rotatiom but it's all about summoning demons while they deal damage and you use filler abilities to keep them empowered. If ff 14 ever had this smn would be my favorite as this play style is fresh and is busy.

[Minas-tepes]

I agree with a lot of part.

For me the best solution is to totally get rid of the actual summoner.

However the gameplay is good. And it'll be a waste to throw it up.

So here is my solution :

- Rename "Summoner" to "Sage".
- Rename Wyrmtrance to something else.
- Remove the egis for the carbuncle.

So the sage keep the actual summoner gameplay.

I like the idea of "Trance"

- Create a Summoner
- Use Trance wich grant him the power of primals.
- The summoner use direct spell that summons primal's parts (Like Yuna on dissidia)
- The LB3 summon a full primal only to use his signature attacks (like diamond dust, hellfire...)
Because you use the power of 8 warriors of light seriously.

And everyone's happy

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