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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiroe View Post
    seen what the PS4 pro really can.. and it really does look better (noticable, and dont mean UHD)... and better framerates (as well as DX11??) would be nice... but before that, SE should finally give us PS4 users a personal dps parser (maybe more dobale on a PS4 Pro??)

    what the PS4 pro really can:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUb63Dc7-Bw (DigitalFoundry)

    even if PS4 can do HDR, the framerate wont be the same as PS4 pro
    Parser is no more doable on PS4Pro than on PS4. That's not the issue though, the issue is decisions made by the development team that are informed by a broad range of player experience and opinion - which has been explained in many interviews.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    Parser is no more doable on PS4Pro than on PS4. That's not the issue though, the issue is decisions made by the development team that are informed by a broad range of player experience and opinion - which has been explained in many interviews.
    didn't Yoshi admit in the meantime, that (personal) Parsers are ok and part of the game.. since defacto all PC users have one. Yoshi used to be against it and wanted to ban such users, now he seen the profit from it..

    sure, excluding other players from duties, cause of their dps is low is not fair.. but a "personal" parser, that only shows your own dps (not of other players) should be fine

    and thought it might be a hardware issue, to keep the parser running smoothly on the PS4 without any hick ups.. (even some PCs have troulbe with them), that the PS4 Pro might handel it better
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiroe View Post
    didn't Yoshi admit in the meantime, that (personal) Parsers are ok and part of the game.. since defacto all PC users have one. Yoshi used to be against it and wanted to ban such users, now he seen the profit from it.
    He didn't say they were ok or give his approval for them. He pretty much said "keep your mouth shut if you using parser and won't be no problems" but if they get a report that someone was bullied/kicked out of party for their dps cause someone using a parser a GM will still look into it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiroe View Post
    didn't Yoshi admit in the meantime, that (personal) Parsers are ok and part of the game.. since defacto all PC users have one. Yoshi used to be against it and wanted to ban such users, now he seen the profit from it..

    sure, excluding other players from duties, cause of their dps is low is not fair.. but a "personal" parser, that only shows your own dps (not of other players) should be fine

    and thought it might be a hardware issue, to keep the parser running smoothly on the PS4 without any hick ups.. (even some PCs have troulbe with them), that the PS4 Pro might handel it better
    It is ok to use parsers so long you don't give away the info that you use a parser and keep the numbers to yourself

    Quote Originally Posted by Shiroe View Post
    seen what the PS4 pro really can.. and it really does look better (noticable, and dont mean UHD)...

    and better framerates (as well as DX11??) would be nice... , but before that, SE should finally give us PS4 users a "personal dps parser" (maybe more dobale on a PS4 Pro??)
    No DX11 on a Sony console, and there was already a graphic update for the PS4 client

    3.3:
    [2.0] A new option has been added to Frame Rate Settings under the Display Settings tab of the System Configuration interface. (Only for PlayStation®4)
    Players can now choose the following settings:

    High Quality
    Scenery and lighting in the game will be displayed in optimized quality.


    Standard Quality
    The game will be displayed in standard quality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    No DX11 on a Sony console, and there was already a graphic update for the PS4 client
    DX11 is a software library that utilizes specific hardware and exposes it to game developers. The GPU in PS4 is DX11 capable - meaning it has the hardware, so equivalent libraries can (and do) offer similar support to developers. DX11 is not some super sekret special sauce, it's a Microsoft middle-ware standard to allow lower level access to hardware, nothing more, nothing less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    DX11 is a software library that utilizes specific hardware and exposes it to game developers. The GPU in PS4 is DX11 capable - meaning it has the hardware, so equivalent libraries can (and do) offer similar support to developers. DX11 is not some super sekret special sauce, it's a Microsoft middle-ware standard to allow lower level access to hardware, nothing more, nothing less.
    Because it is from Microsoft it will not be on a Sony console. Sony use OpenGL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    Because it is from Microsoft it will not be on a Sony console. Sony use OpenGL.
    That's what I said. However, people throw DX11 and DX12 around like magical talismens of specialness and then say "but Playstation hasn't got that". The point I was making was that the software library depends on the feature set of the GPU, and the GPU in PS4 is just as much an AMD GCN design as their PC cards. I'm sure you already know that, but most (including the poster you had replied to) seem unaware and treat DX11 as some kind of magical PC exclusive feature without understanding that the hardware matters more than the software.

    Quote Originally Posted by Derio View Post
    Only SE is blocking Playstation users from playing at 60fps. I mean even DCUO has ps4 players playing at 60fps while ps3 players are still stuck at 30
    We're gonna need a link for that since it makes no sense to actively prevent their game from performing well. Plus I've never seen or heard any indication from SE to that effect.
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