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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexia View Post
    Unless a person does not already have a PS4 why would person want to spend another $400 for slightly better specs then what they already have.
    If they were thinking about picking up a second ps4 for reasons and may as well go for the tweaked specs if they'd prefer a slight power boost over a new slimline model.
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    Just throwing out there this question. Hope someone with technical experience can answer this.

    My TV is Ultra 4k HD (Sony XBR-65X900B) but this telly does not support HDR. Will I see the difference if I buy PS4PRO? Knowing that my TV doesn't support HDR?

    thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mature View Post
    Just throwing out there this question. Hope someone with technical experience can answer this.

    My TV is Ultra 4k HD (Sony XBR-65X900B) but this telly does not support HDR. Will I see the difference if I buy PS4PRO? Knowing that my TV doesn't support HDR?

    thanks
    Yes. Frame rates of existing games will be better at the very least. Patched games may render to 1440p scaled to 4k, and new games will go even further. HDR isoptional, but supported, it won't hurt if your screen doesn't support that functionality.
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    Thank you very much o/
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    I dunno if S-E will be so quick to update the PS4 client given the headaches people with multi GPU/monitor PC setups have had in regards to developer support. I honestly do not expect any sort of perks to having a PS4 Pro before 4.0.
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    Quote Originally Posted by S-r-ex View Post
    This is a reason I still don't understand. How is that any different from PC?
    It comes down to two things; ease of use and cost.

    With consoles, you can buy one machine that you know will last as it is for years. You get thousands of game options that will work on it out of the box. You can go an entire generation of games without needing to spend a dime on hardware upgrades unless you want to.

    The only major downside is if you break your console, you have to jump through hoops with the manufacturer for repairs.

    For many people, consoles just make more sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ametrine View Post
    It comes down to two things; ease of use and cost.

    With consoles, you can buy one machine that you know will last as it is for years. You get thousands of game options that will work on it out of the box. You can go an entire generation of games without needing to spend a dime on hardware upgrades unless you want to.


    The only major downside is if you break your console, you have to jump through hoops with the manufacturer for repairs.

    For many people, consoles just make more sense.
    The PS4 Pro wont be native 4K at 60FPS more like a trick to make it look like 4k at 30FPS

    PC parts are cheaper these days and you can get a AMD RX480 at $200 that runs 4k at 60FPS per store page info, but with bench marks its at 30FPS

    GTX 1080 runs at 4k with around 30-60+ FPS depending on the game and that card cost $600

    you're telling me Sony found a way to run 4k on a $400 console? Nope they didn't.

    at $500 or less you could build a PC way better than console.

    Once I build my PC I never went back. My last console the PS3 has been collecting dust for 6 years.

    link to games running full settings at 1080p to 4k. The PS4 Pro wont achieve those numbers with 4k
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQTRlDoCVUw
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    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by LalafellDown View Post
    The PS4 Pro wont be native 4K at 60FPS more like a trick to make it look like 4k at 30FPS

    PC parts are cheaper these days and you can get a AMD RX480 at $200 that runs 4k at 60FPS per store page info, but with bench marks its at 30FPS
    You do realize that the PS4Pro has about 75% of the GPU of that RX480, so if an RX480 can hit 4K @ 60fps, PS4Pro can at least hit 4K @ 30fps. But, it's highly likely that many games will render to 1440p or some other intermediate resolution and scale from there, as they would do on a PC. Players will see a difference, but to be honest I don't think that 4K represents as apparent an upgrade from 1080p as 1080p did from good old standard def. At the higher resolutions you are getting into territory where himan visual accuity comes nto play, and the denefits of higher resolution diminish as resolution increases. 4K is already knocking on the door of the grain size of 35mm film. Face it, at some point, probably somewhere between 1080p and 2160p the image resolution and quality will become good enough that no appreciable improvement will be possible, or worththe expense. At thatpoint, where is the advantage of PCs vs Consoles?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LalafellDown View Post

    at $500 or less you could build a PC way better than console.
    Thats actually a mistake PC Gamers make. A PS4 can run games that both the PC and PS4 share at better performance then a PC does with similar parts. And to get the results, or better, the PS4 has, you'd need to dump at least $600-700 into a PC. Its due to the way the PS4 was designed, as well as the fact that its a unified system where PC is not. Or the fact that the 500mb ram is only used for background processes and the network, where everything else uses the 8gb GDDR5. I'm not saying the PS4 is better then PC, or that PC is better then PS4, both have flaws. But most PC gamers look at the specs and immediately say its shit without looking into how it works. In fact, PCs are starting to be made with the same design system the PS4 uses.
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    Here are my PC specs:

    OS: Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
    Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3570K CPU @ 3.40GHz (4 CPUs), ~3.4GHz
    RAM: 32gb DDR3
    Graphics Card: 2x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 2GB (Superclocked) in SLI
    Mobo: AsRock z77 Extreme 4

    Now with those specs, my PS4 outperforms my PC by a noticeable amount. And the PS4 Pro will make that gap even bigger.
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