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    Yoshida changed his mind to have the perfect RP game ever , they took enough money with the ARR version and now he's become too greedy selling stuff that u can't obtain via in-game. More optional items every months .Less horizontal progression.

    The next patch launchs always one month later than expected so the new really content for raiders is for 8 or 9 months and only new 4 floors ( normal and savage, same design). Guys, this is very poor for a SE game who has amortized our money more than enough. I don't know if FFXV has divided some devs but it's time to do the things in the right direction.

    You will gain more ppl now with linear patches and making false hype but with time the real sustain of population are the mid/hard-core raiders. The more sad now is that the real fans of this game still plays here because some friends not for the content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myleus View Post
    too greedy selling stuff that u can't obtain via in-game. More optional items every months
    Please perform a numerical analysis of items in each patch (and sub-path) as well as all patches since 2.0 cumulatively vs the number of items in the cash shop. I think you'll find your assertion and the theory behind it do not stand scrutiny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    Please perform a numerical analysis of items in each patch (and sub-path) as well as all patches since 2.0 cumulatively vs the number of items in the cash shop. I think you'll find your assertion and the theory behind it do not stand scrutiny.
    It is obvious the direction has taken the game from last year to start to analyze numbers now when we are seeing the results in benefit of casual/RP.

    So tell me why every month i have to see new optional items instead of a new raid preview?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myleus View Post
    It is obvious the direction has taken the game from last year to start to analyze numbers now when we are seeing the results in benefit of casual/RP.

    So tell me why every month i have to see new optional items instead of a new raid preview?
    The number of items in the cash shop are completely trivial compared to the number of items in the game or added with each major patch. That's why it's relevant. You're talking as if a significant or even noticeable amount of development is going into cash shop items that were originally not cash shop items. The actual numbers simply do not back you up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myleus View Post
    It is obvious the direction has taken the game from last year to start to analyze numbers now when we are seeing the results in benefit of casual/RP.

    So tell me why every month i have to see new optional items instead of a new raid preview?
    Since January 2016, additions to Mogstation are as followed:

    Fat Moogle mount: $29.99
    Bennu mount: $24.00
    Southern Seas outfits: $3.00 each
    Engineer's/Cid Attire: $15.00
    Lamps: $5.00
    Miniatures: $15.00
    FFXIII gear: $15.00 (Weapons $5.00)
    Heavensward Scion outfits: $15.00

    As far as I am aware, only the Fat Moogle mount has been exclusive to Mogstation. The rest are either palette swaps, cosplay gear or old event items. Since I'm not certain about the Miniatures (Bahamut in particular), this amounts to possibly three exclusive items in the span of nine months at best; one otherwise. For a purported new direction, Square isn't doing a good job of it.

    And for some interesting factoids. JP is often talked up here, especially in regards to who the developers supposedly listen to. A few months back someone translated a wanted list from their forum section. You know what was on that list? Unique Mogstation items they would be interested in purchasing because palette swaps are boring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Since January 2016, additions to Mogstation are as followed:

    Fat Moogle mount: $29.99
    Bennu mount: $24.00
    Southern Seas outfits: $3.00 each
    Engineer's/Cid Attire: $15.00
    Lamps: $5.00
    Miniatures: $15.00
    FFXIII gear: $15.00 (Weapons $5.00)
    Heavensward Scion outfits: $15.00

    As far as I am aware, only the Fat Moogle mount has been exclusive to Mogstation. The rest are either palette swaps, cosplay gear or old event items. Since I'm not certain about the Miniatures (Bahamut in particular), this amounts to possibly three exclusive items in the span of nine months at best; one otherwise. For a purported new direction, Square isn't doing a good job of it.

    And for some interesting factoids. JP is often talked up here, especially in regards to who the developers supposedly listen to. A few months back someone translated a wanted list from their forum section. You know what was on that list? Unique Mogstation items they would be interested in purchasing because palette swaps are boring.
    I kinda like looking at those prices from time to time. Not because of it being reasonable, in fact I think that **** is outrageous, but because it reminds me of how easy it is for us the consumers to spend money on microtransactions that REALLY do not hold much value for such high cost. I could take that $15 and spend it on something that makes my real life easier. I get that value is always subjective, but holy crap can $30 go far to make someones time all the more easier/better/livable. This is also me reflecting on my own excessive microtransaction expenses in other games... like with FFRK...

    Regarding the pro-microtransactions though for unique appeal, I mean that's just how the east and west differ. We're talking about a generation that prides themselves on looks more than actual practicality. Obviously that's a very general statement, but it holds up rather well just by going outside in places like Tokyo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Welsper59 View Post
    I kinda like looking at those prices from time to time. Not because of it being reasonable, in fact I think that **** is outrageous, but because it reminds me of how easy it is for us the consumers to spend money on microtransactions that REALLY do not hold much value for such high cost. I could take that $15 and spend it on something that makes my real life easier. I get that value is always subjective, but holy crap can $30 go far to make someones time all the more easier/better/livable. This is also me reflecting on my own excessive microtransaction expenses in other games... like with FFRK...

    Regarding the pro-microtransactions though for unique appeal, I mean that's just how the east and west differ. We're talking about a generation that prides themselves on looks more than actual practicality. Obviously that's a very general statement, but it holds up rather well just by going outside in places like Tokyo.
    As you said, value is subjective. How often do people 'waste' money on supposedly frivolous things or simply go out partying? You can't really compare these types of things to something like tupperware, lest you never splurge on anything you want because it doesn't make life easier. Way I look at stuff like this. If I want it and have the spare cash to spend, I'll treat myself as it makes me happy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Myleus View Post
    Finish well,pls, that's if you want them asap but veteran players deserves exclusives items further in time available in the rank veteran. Both sides , not one . This is not a pre-order to obtain exclusives bonuses that u won't have in a future.That's why they dont listen west community.
    ... what? What does veteran rewards have to do with the Mogstation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander_Dragonfang View Post
    No.
    They money made by the Cash Shop is probably not going into this game development nor any SE title development for that matter.

    Yoshida is the only one who could call more than half his player base "baddies" (which aint a lie btw, i lol'd at it) and still get away with it, he straight out evaded the question regarding the predictive nature of patching by basically threating us of "oh, but you would love it if we stopped updating" (WTH) and got away with it. Seriously, smokes are high, the whole "savior of XIV", "sucessful reboot" went to his head.

    But again, there is people here who would defend him even if he were to wipe the progress of all accounts, people would come to this forum and say "hey, is a chance for all of us to start again!" or something like that.
    Considering the devs expressly stated the cash shop paid for the EU data center, you would be incorrect. Regardless, every dime we spend goes directly to Square Enix. Budgets are divvied up separate from revenue generates. This is not unique to Square but typical business practice. What profits FFXV amasses will be funneled into the development of FFVII: Remake and Kingdom Hearts 3 and so forth. Frankly, I couldn't care less what they do with my money, provided FFXIV is still delivering content I enjoy. The moment that stops happening is when I move on to something else.

    And that last paragraph is just a strawman. You're speaking in absolutes without a means to base those assumptions on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    And for some interesting factoids. JP is often talked up here, especially in regards to who the developers supposedly listen to. A few months back someone translated a wanted list from their forum section. You know what was on that list? Unique Mogstation items they would be interested in purchasing because palette swaps are boring.

    Finish well,pls, that's if you want them asap but veteran players deserves exclusives items further in time available in the rank veteran. Both sides , not one . This is not a pre-order to obtain exclusives bonuses that u won't have in a future.That's why they dont listen west community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myleus View Post
    It is obvious the direction has taken the game from last year to start to analyze numbers now when we are seeing the results in benefit of casual/RP.

    So tell me why every month i have to see new optional items instead of a new raid preview?
    A raid preview every month? I know the devs work fast, but not THAT fast to show raid stuff every month.
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