PS4 PRO and FFXIV Graphics and Framerate Patch

[LalafellDown]

Unless a person does not already have a PS4 why would person want to spend another $400 for slightly better specs then what they already have.

Bet it only adds like 3 to 5 FPS.

[Nav_Fae]

Unless a person does not already have a PS4 why would person want to spend another $400 for slightly better specs then what they already have.

Look at every PC gamer ever and you'll find your answer; now apply that mentality to the PS4.

[Khanscott]

I dunno if S-E will be so quick to update the PS4 client given the headaches people with multi GPU/monitor PC setups have had in regards to developer support. I honestly do not expect any sort of perks to having a PS4 Pro before 4.0.

[Ametrine]

This is a reason I still don't understand. How is that any different from PC?

It comes down to two things; ease of use and cost.

With consoles, you can buy one machine that you know will last as it is for years. You get thousands of game options that will work on it out of the box. You can go an entire generation of games without needing to spend a dime on hardware upgrades unless you want to.

The only major downside is if you break your console, you have to jump through hoops with the manufacturer for repairs.

For many people, consoles just make more sense.

[LalafellDown]

It comes down to two things; ease of use and cost.

With consoles, you can buy one machine that you know will last as it is for years. You get thousands of game options that will work on it out of the box. You can go an entire generation of games without needing to spend a dime on hardware upgrades unless you want to.


The only major downside is if you break your console, you have to jump through hoops with the manufacturer for repairs.

For many people, consoles just make more sense.

The PS4 Pro wont be native 4K at 60FPS more like a trick to make it look like 4k at 30FPS

PC parts are cheaper these days and you can get a AMD RX480 at $200 that runs 4k at 60FPS per store page info, but with bench marks its at 30FPS

GTX 1080 runs at 4k with around 30-60+ FPS depending on the game and that card cost $600

you're telling me Sony found a way to run 4k on a $400 console? Nope they didn't.

at $500 or less you could build a PC way better than console.

Once I build my PC I never went back. My last console the PS3 has been collecting dust for 6 years.

link to games running full settings at 1080p to 4k. The PS4 Pro wont achieve those numbers with 4k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQTRlDoCVUw

[Kosmos992k]

The PS4 Pro wont be native 4K at 60FPS more like a trick to make it look like 4k at 30FPS

PC parts are cheaper these days and you can get a AMD RX480 at $200 that runs 4k at 60FPS per store page info, but with bench marks its at 30FPS

You do realize that the PS4Pro has about 75% of the GPU of that RX480, so if an RX480 can hit 4K @ 60fps, PS4Pro can at least hit 4K @ 30fps. But, it's highly likely that many games will render to 1440p or some other intermediate resolution and scale from there, as they would do on a PC. Players will see a difference, but to be honest I don't think that 4K represents as apparent an upgrade from 1080p as 1080p did from good old standard def. At the higher resolutions you are getting into territory where himan visual accuity comes nto play, and the denefits of higher resolution diminish as resolution increases. 4K is already knocking on the door of the grain size of 35mm film. Face it, at some point, probably somewhere between 1080p and 2160p the image resolution and quality will become good enough that no appreciable improvement will be possible, or worththe expense. At thatpoint, where is the advantage of PCs vs Consoles?

[Ametrine]

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You miss the "ease of use" part. Even without worry over price, you still need to gain the knowledge of PC hardware and software. While it's all not that complicated, it can be a daunting endeavour to a novice.

You need to buy each part, make sure everything is compatible, put it together correctly, then go through the processes of OS installation. After that, you still need to tweak the settings for every game you install to run well on your rig.

Plus, buying prebuilt gaming PCs is much more expensive than buying a console unless you buy low spec items.

You don't need to do any of that for a console. The developer has done all that work for you. It really is just plug and play.

This doesn't even touch exclusives that only hit consoles.

[Zfz]

Assembling your own gaming PC is something that seems like a huge hassle but a very rewarding experience. For people who don't really use the PC a lot, it's really hard to justify the trouble.

For those who made the dive, the only reason to buy consoles would be exclusive games. I bought my PS4 for FFXV and Horizon Zero Dawn. Both are yet to be released so I'm bashing myself with a brick for not holding out longer. I would have bought the PS4 Pro directly if I had waited. That's also the problem with consoles. It's discrete and significant upgrades all the time. A whole new machine every time.

But compared with the PC it's still small money. The PC has moving goalposts when it comes to target performance, while console performance remains consistent, stable and reliable.

In the end it's all about what you buy it for. If the game you want to play only comes on the console, all the reasons for the PC won't help you and vice versa. For me, I'm only planning to upgrade to 4K when the 1080-equivalent graphics cards will be able to push 100fps on big AAA titles of the time. That justifies a 4K display, which would then justify a 4K-capable console.

[LalafellDown]

You miss the "ease of use" part. Even without worry over price, you still need to gain the knowledge of PC hardware and software. While it's all not that complicated, it can be a daunting endeavour to a novice.

You need to buy each part, make sure everything is compatible, put it together correctly, then go through the processes of OS installation. After that, you still need to tweak the settings for every game you install to run well on your rig.

Plus, buying prebuilt gaming PCs is much more expensive than buying a console unless you buy low spec items.

You don't need to do any of that for a console. The developer has done all that work for you. It really is just plug and play.

This doesn't even touch exclusives that only hit consoles.

Nope I didn't miss the ease part. I built my first PC blind. When you buy parts like the motherboard it tells you what memory stick, GPU and CPU it supports. You just buy what it supports. I may be a idiot, but I can read simple guides.

You don't need to tweak anything in games you install. last time I messed with game profiles with AMD was because the developer didn't support crossfire on fallout 4 and Witcher 3, but now they do. When I run games for the first time everything works fine. you make it sound like its really hard.

I saw an opportunity in PC with its fantastic games and endless free DLC (free mods). I made that jump into the unknown and now I have way more knowledge about PC than I ever did. I can help people like my family who also recently got into PC. when there's a product that out does another product 100 times better why buy the lesser one? Unless you financially unstable then that's understandable.

Playing this game at 144FPS blew my mind. Never have I ever experience such smooth camera rotation (I used 3 290x to achieve that, liquid cooled) playing at 70+ FPS is way better than PS4 30+ FPS (one 290x)

I managed to even disable that annoying windows 10 virus that told me I needed windows 10. Still on 7

I also got into graphic design and been drawing on the PC love drawing anime art. I cut my cable because I have a PC. Haven't watched TV since 2010. saved tons of money. I don't have to sub to PSN to play online games (not MMO's though, I know)

My point is PC is a win, if you are financially stable go for it. If your gonna tell me "its to hard, there's gonna be problems and I don't know what I'm doing" then fine stay in your bubble, pretend life is as good as it gets.

[Ametrine]

PC master race levels of snipping.

I never said consoles are better or PCs are worse, or vice versa. All I've done is explain why consoles remain appealing despite the options PCs offer, since many PC players have been sworn off of consoles for so long they don't understand why people still choose them.

And I do know how to build a PC and read directions, and don't make assumptions about other people's finances. That's very rude.


On the subject of the PS4 Pro or PC, I see no reason to make the upgrade until I have a viable reason to believe not having the upgrade will negatively affect my ability to enjoy games. That is simply not the case here.

That's the reason why I immediately mentioned exclusive games. That would be a reason, but until then, or PS5, no thank you.