PS4 PRO and FFXIV Graphics and Framerate Patch

[Ametrine]

This is a reason I still don't understand. How is that any different from PC?

It comes down to two things; ease of use and cost.

With consoles, you can buy one machine that you know will last as it is for years. You get thousands of game options that will work on it out of the box. You can go an entire generation of games without needing to spend a dime on hardware upgrades unless you want to.

The only major downside is if you break your console, you have to jump through hoops with the manufacturer for repairs.

For many people, consoles just make more sense.

[LalafellDown]

It comes down to two things; ease of use and cost.

With consoles, you can buy one machine that you know will last as it is for years. You get thousands of game options that will work on it out of the box. You can go an entire generation of games without needing to spend a dime on hardware upgrades unless you want to.


The only major downside is if you break your console, you have to jump through hoops with the manufacturer for repairs.

For many people, consoles just make more sense.

The PS4 Pro wont be native 4K at 60FPS more like a trick to make it look like 4k at 30FPS

PC parts are cheaper these days and you can get a AMD RX480 at $200 that runs 4k at 60FPS per store page info, but with bench marks its at 30FPS

GTX 1080 runs at 4k with around 30-60+ FPS depending on the game and that card cost $600

you're telling me Sony found a way to run 4k on a $400 console? Nope they didn't.

at $500 or less you could build a PC way better than console.

Once I build my PC I never went back. My last console the PS3 has been collecting dust for 6 years.

link to games running full settings at 1080p to 4k. The PS4 Pro wont achieve those numbers with 4k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQTRlDoCVUw

[Kosmos992k]

The PS4 Pro wont be native 4K at 60FPS more like a trick to make it look like 4k at 30FPS

PC parts are cheaper these days and you can get a AMD RX480 at $200 that runs 4k at 60FPS per store page info, but with bench marks its at 30FPS

You do realize that the PS4Pro has about 75% of the GPU of that RX480, so if an RX480 can hit 4K @ 60fps, PS4Pro can at least hit 4K @ 30fps. But, it's highly likely that many games will render to 1440p or some other intermediate resolution and scale from there, as they would do on a PC. Players will see a difference, but to be honest I don't think that 4K represents as apparent an upgrade from 1080p as 1080p did from good old standard def. At the higher resolutions you are getting into territory where himan visual accuity comes nto play, and the denefits of higher resolution diminish as resolution increases. 4K is already knocking on the door of the grain size of 35mm film. Face it, at some point, probably somewhere between 1080p and 2160p the image resolution and quality will become good enough that no appreciable improvement will be possible, or worththe expense. At thatpoint, where is the advantage of PCs vs Consoles?

[Tatsuya227]

at $500 or less you could build a PC way better than console.

Thats actually a mistake PC Gamers make. A PS4 can run games that both the PC and PS4 share at better performance then a PC does with similar parts. And to get the results, or better, the PS4 has, you'd need to dump at least $600-700 into a PC. Its due to the way the PS4 was designed, as well as the fact that its a unified system where PC is not. Or the fact that the 500mb ram is only used for background processes and the network, where everything else uses the 8gb GDDR5. I'm not saying the PS4 is better then PC, or that PC is better then PS4, both have flaws. But most PC gamers look at the specs and immediately say its shit without looking into how it works. In fact, PCs are starting to be made with the same design system the PS4 uses.

[Tatsuya227]

Here are my PC specs:

OS: Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3570K CPU @ 3.40GHz (4 CPUs), ~3.4GHz
RAM: 32gb DDR3
Graphics Card: 2x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 2GB (Superclocked) in SLI
Mobo: AsRock z77 Extreme 4

Now with those specs, my PS4 outperforms my PC by a noticeable amount. And the PS4 Pro will make that gap even bigger.

[Krisom]

Here are my PC specs:

OS: Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3570K CPU @ 3.40GHz (4 CPUs), ~3.4GHz
RAM: 32gb DDR3
Graphics Card: 2x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 2GB (Superclocked) in SLI
Mobo: AsRock z77 Extreme 4

Now with those specs, my PS4 outperforms my PC by a noticeable amount. And the PS4 Pro will make that gap even bigger.

No, your PS4 most certainly does not outperform your PC by a noticeable amount & if that is the case the problem resides with YOU & not the systems.

First off the PS4's GPU is a modified HD 7870 which is give or take comparable to ONE of your 660s in terms of graphical prowess, secondly your CPU outclasses the PS4 CPU. Or APU if you will.

From someone who used to use a similar build as yours before upgrading (albeit two 670s/i7 3700k, but 1 670 would have done the job) & also owns a PS4, the performance difference was massive, including the graphical fidelity at the max with much higher FPS.

[Tatsuya227]

No, your PS4 most certainly does not outperform your PC by a noticeable amount & if that is the case the problem resides with YOU & not the systems.

First off the PS4's GPU is a modified HD 7870 which is give or take comparable to ONE of your 660s in terms of graphical prowess, secondly your CPU outclasses the PS4 CPU. Or APU if you will.

From someone who used to use a similar build as yours before upgrading (albeit two 670s/i7 3700k, but 1 670 would have done the job) & also owns a PS4, the performance difference was massive, including the graphical fidelity at the max with much higher FPS.

I can show you my YouTube with video from both my PS4 and PC and you'll see that the PS4 has better performance then my PC. As I said before, its not just about the hardware, its about how unique the PS4 uses it and is built. In face, PCs are starting to be built the same way the PS4 was built.