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  1. #161
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    I'm really looking forward to the Warring Traid stuff, though. Ever since van Hydrus whipped out that magitek-generated ceruleum tiger I've been curious how far the Kekfa parallels will go. Imagine if the power [E/Li'lidibus] was directing him towards led to usurping some pretty strong Allagan mojo and turning them on Varis? Best case, the Azys Lla initiative has to fall back behind Ala Mhigan lines, worst case they're already out another emperor.
    I know this could be very very wrong, but is not something that still be a possibility.
    What if something happens that allows Hydrus to use magick? And that makes me to become very obssesed with it?
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  2. #162
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frederick22 View Post
    Where did you found that?!

    Also yes, thats indeed Xelphatol. I can see the Ixal houses behind the Miqo'te.
    Found it here: http://www.dualshockers.com/2016/09/...oul-surrender/

    On the subject on Elidibus, Unukalhai and Eikons. I am reminded of the War of Magi of FF6. On there Odin was an Esper task with defending a castle/fortress. During the war he was fought and defeated by a white hooded mage and was subsequently petrified/sealed.

    Since Zantetsuken is the Eikon,I wonder if Elidibus (or Unukalhai) had a hand in Odin's/Zantetsuken's sealing in Urths Fount?
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  3. #163
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    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    Since Zantetsuken is the Eikon,I wonder if Elidibus (or Unukalhai) had a hand in Odin's/Zantetsuken's sealing in Urths Fount?
    I doubt that is the case here.
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    Despite theories about Ilberd, for the guy with a mask, it could be Widargelt, or...



    ...maybe Livia sas Junius.



    Why Livia ? Because, if you remember well in the past Livia faced Yda and she was shocked because they had the same Monk skills (I guess) or maybe she recognized her.



    Personnally, I think Yda and Livia had the same monk master back in Ala Mhigo several years ago.
    So, because Yda want to stay to verify who is this Mask (could she suspect to be Livia ? ), and because Monks are related to Ala Mhigo, it's a possibility to not exclude.
    And, it could be nice to have a motivation for Lucia to be involved in the story of the next expansion. She could met her sister Livia.
    The good question is why Livia would do such a thing ? I think with Gaius dead, she has nothing anymore to do with the empire. So, what she want is to conquer Ala Mhigo, her beloved city where she was raised, and become the new queen
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    Didn't we kinda, you know, kill Livia though?
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    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    It does appear that the WoDs will appear in Xelphaltol if the background is an indicator:


    Unless it's Natalan or Howling Eye area.

    I do hope that the rest of the WoDs will have dialogue. They don't need to have VA, simple text dialogue will be nice. Rather than the looking at each other while grinning. I their personalities/ character will play show.
    True. I honestly won't be surprised if the WoD crew ends up as one of the (or maybe final) boss battles in Xelphatol
    (Actually, I just want to have a brütal harp duel against the WoD bard, but alas....)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ceasaria View Post
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    >Widargelt
    Nah. While I do wonder were he went after you finish the 60 job quest, he already went over the whole 'liberate Ala Mhigo at all costs' thing after the 50 one

    >Livia
    she's dead Jim.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    Didn't we kinda, you know, kill Livia though?
    Yeah, with the same skills we used to fight Raubahn in a just-for-the-funsies exhibition match where absolutely nobody was seriously hurt. Actually, we hit Raubahn harder.

    So by whatever laws of RPG damage application that allow me to stab, poison, electrocute, and assassinate a major political figure "for fun," she could have survived, I guess.
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  8. #168
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenral View Post
    Yeah, with the same skills we used to fight Raubahn in a just-for-the-funsies exhibition match where absolutely nobody was seriously hurt. Actually, we hit Raubahn harder.

    So by whatever laws of RPG damage application that allow me to stab, poison, electrocute, and assassinate a major political figure "for fun," she could have survived, I guess.
    There's a clear difference between a friendly match, and a battle to the death... We beat Raubahn into submission, we sent Livia to her death throes... I guess she could have just gone unconscious, but IDK... I feel like there'd have been more hints to her surviving if she had... Plus, you know... Papalymo was warning Yda not to put faith in "them" until they know more, which suggests Yda has no suspicions, then there is just the fact that whoever we're looking at appears to be a man...

    I just don't think Livia even has anything worth reviving her for, too... The only thing that made her remotely interesting was her dynamic with Gaius, and he is probably gone too... I mean... We have multiple worlds now, so a bizarro-world Gaius isn't exactly off the table I guess... I actually wouldn't mind having him save the day against Derplander, but that's fanfic level crap right there...
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  9. #169
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    I mean, they already played the "identical sibling with the same actor" card when they introduced Lucia, and that's not something you do when you want to bring back the exact character you killed off. I just like playing devil's advocate.
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    It's not Livia...

    I mean, for starters the figure is quite clearly male and heavily tanned at that. Garleans are also pale skinned and given that we've seen what Lucia looks like we know that her sister was also a Pureblood Garlean...and she's also been repeatedly referred to as deceased.

    Bringing her back would be pointless. It would just cheapen death in this setting further and obliterate her established personality.

    Wildargelt is also a few shades paler than the figure in the mask. So it's more likely to be Ilberd or a completely new character. I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out to be a surviving member of the royal family. FFXIV has a habit of drawing heavy inspiration from previous FF titles and a character such as Ashe from FFXII would be plausible.

    I just hope we don't have to stomach a one sided story where the Garleans are turned into one-dimensional bad guys. The situation surrounding Ala Mhigo is very complex and with Garleans now having lived alongside the Ala Mhigans for over two decades it makes sense that many people would not wish for the status quo to change.

    Rabanastre was occupied for less time in FFXII and there was a particularly memorable quest where an Imperial handed out a contract to eliminate a monster to protect the people of Rabanastre. I'm hoping we get to see stuff like that for a change - especially since the lore has already established that Garlemald values order and seeks to learn from the culture of the nations that they occupy. Oddly enough we haven't seen much of that - because for whatever reason the developers have seen fit to focus on having Garlemald be overly aggressive and destructive.

    I don't even think it's meant to be intentional. They're just being far too vague - how did the Emperor know of the Archbishop's plan, for example? There's a lot of mysteries and plot points surrounding Garlemald that have yet to be addressed and hopefully 3.4 will be the start of more moral complexity.

    It's odd, though - Garlemald has been fairly 'quiet' during 3.0's patch cycle. Which means that Regula's side story may tie into the MSQ in the future. Yet we're now moving to focus on the Ala Mhigan Resistance and the Warriors of Darkness...with the latter not being affiliated with Garlemald other than a brief phrase used by Elidibus who states that the Garleans will 'play their part'. Which suggests manipulation...

    There's also the patch title to consider: we know that the titles tend to refer to multiple meanings - so it could be that the Ascians and Warriors of Darkness have surrendered their souls - but then it could also refer to the Au Ra sealed away within Alexander. Yet what about Regula? Perhaps Sophia encourages him to surrender his soul? It's clear that they're building him up for something...but we'll be dealing with Zurvan during 3.5 and then...what will become of Regula? I still think he could end up becoming a major antagonist for 4.0.
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    Last edited by Theodric; 09-11-2016 at 12:09 AM.

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