Thread: Patch 3.4 - Soul Surrender

Hm Soul Surrender and we see Alisea resting on a couch. Maybe they somehow managed to steal her soul to use it in their plans and we try to get it back? Still I am a little skeptic about patch titles since "Gears of Change" did not really brought that much change with it IMO.

I know its kinda a shonen standard that the hero looses against their rivals first but I really hope that its not the case. I don't want our WoL to kick their asses too, so maybe make it so that neither truly wins or loose. (Heck a 5vs1 is also not that fair) I mean if we would get really hurt (like deep wounds and things like that), than I may get behind loosing the fight since it would be a nice change in the story since the others could see that we are still humans too.

I can understand that people want to see their WoL failing since we are really powerful. But at the same time we already lost quite much on our journey (especially in HW) so I am not sure if we really need to loose.

Originally Posted by Nestama

I don't mind losing, so long as I'm losing after trying my hardest (let me play the fight I can't win. Don't do another 3.1 sequence).

Interestingly enough, the MSQ already made us go through an unwinnable battle... once. The fight before we get dragged into the Ifrit trial ended with us and the Immortal Flame soldiers fighting alongside us, being dragged away by the Amal'jaa. It's a bit silly to see our character simply put away their weapon and then get arbitrarily told via cutscene that we've lost that fight, but I wish they'd bring that mechanic back. Maybe spice it up a little this time, by making the enemy throw out a big unblockable attack that will KO us, and then have that lead into the next cutscene.

Originally Posted by Zorzi

As much as it bothers me too, I'm having a hard time thinking of how it would work, and account for class.

The scenes in which we killed Nabby and Iggy could work. Make it a "generic" weapon, one that's not associated with any job. Although I'd be way more impressed if they actually took the time to animate unique fight scenes for all jobs, I will agree that that is a little too much to expect.

Originally Posted by Alleo

Hm Soul Surrender and we see Alisea resting on a couch.

Hmm... my fear is that it didn't really look like a resting pose and maybe she's unconscious, especially with how Alphinaud is crouching next to her.

Originally Posted by Nalien

I'd say stick with what we have in the MSQ... Let the Scions have cinematic fights, while we get actual fights in the form of instanced trials... I loved the Grand Melee and our fight with Regula for that... Perhaps our final encounter with Derplander can function a bit more like that, with some Praetorium mixed in; Lets say you go in against all of them with all our Scion buddies. We get them down to a certain %, then a cutscene triggers, perhaps Blanhaerz and Y'shtola get an involved cutscene that takes them out of the fight proper, and we carry on with them removed, then that continues until it's just us against Derplander, with the final blow knocking him back in a cutscene similar to what we saw with Gaius. Would we be involved much in those epic cutscenes? No, not at all... I don't think we need to be though...

I think one of the problems with the sort of instance that you describe is that all members of the WoD's group are supposed to be as strong as he is. At least, that was my impression. So, while the Scions are strong, would we really leave each one of them to face such individuals alone?

I feel remind the Divine Might (Ark Angels) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mou09L3Azw0 I cant wait see WoD battle ^^

Personaly, I am tired of seeing the WoL standing there while his/her companions are fighting. I want see my character kicking some WoD ass.

Originally Posted by Khalithar

That's one of the things I love about swtor. In that game they actually take the time to animate your character fighting NPC's and doing badass stuff in the cutscenes so said cutscenes aren't just the NPC's having all the fun.

As much as it bothers me too, I'm having a hard time thinking of how it would work, and account for class. Can't just, say, use an autoattack animation, because I doubt the WoD will be impressed by a bop on the head with a book. How did SWTOR do it? Was there some weapon or something that was common across all classes or did they just manually animate it?