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    Player PArcher's Avatar
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    Kytre Ashaer
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    I'm still holding on to the "the masked man is Gaius cause reasons!" theory >.>
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    @Nalien: It's mentioned somewhere - in quest text, I believe - that the Emperor is specifically pursuing the Archbishop in an attempt to put a stop to his plans. It's likely that the Garleans already intended to head to Azyz Lla though and they became distracted once there...or simply decided to allow the Warrior of Light to deal with the Archbishop (just like they allowed the WoL to retrieve the key and remove the barrier barring entry to Azyz Lla).

    It's never really explained how he knows such things though - especially since the Archbishop's betrayal/plan was known only to a select few. My theory back in 3.0 was that Lucia was feeding the Emperor information...though as it turns out she really is just a defector with a crush on Aymeric. Alas. I expected more of her, but I believe she's popular around these parts so I'll avoid ranting. She seemed to brush off her sister's death fairly easily though...which is disappointing. Especially if she was created for the sake of 'fan-service' to let a little bit of Livia live on.

    Though they changed Estinien's model to be more 'pretty' to fit the sudden shift from 'gritty elves' to 'pretty elves' that Ishgard's story began to take so it's possible that Lucia was originally meant to be a darker character? Just pure speculation though!
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    Last edited by Theodric; 09-11-2016 at 11:07 AM.

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    Frederick Blake
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    @Nalien: It's mentioned somewhere - in quest text, I believe - that the Emperor is specifically pursuing the Archbishop in an attempt to put a stop to his plans. It's likely that the Garleans already intended to head to Azyz Lla though and they became distracted once there...or simply decided to allow the Warrior of Light to deal with the Archbishop (just like they allowed the WoL to retrieve the key and remove the barrier barring entry to Azyz Lla).
    Plis evidence till ortherwise. The intentions of the archovishop and the garleans were very different, no one was tring to stop another one. Was just a coincidence.
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    Tonrak Totorak
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    It seems as if the Garleans suspected Ishgard to have Allagan relics stored, potentially the Key to Azys Lla itself:

    My mission. 'Twas believed that Allagan relics of great worth were stored in the Vault, and I was sent to investigate. Though I was given little information at the time, I now suspect I was searching for the key we but recently lost.
    I am more curious about the timeline of her infiltrating Ishgard, was it pre or post calamity? If post calamity it would make sense why they'd suspect Ishgard of having Allagan relics since Rivenroad was in Coerthas, then there's the obvious allagan ruins in Boulder Downs.
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    Trpimir Ratyasch
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    With everything we know...

    The Garleans did not go to Azys Lla to oppose the Archbishop. Their primary goal was to secure the untold stores of Allagan knowledge there - primarily the Primal sealing technology. Even if Ishgard did have Allagan relics in the Vault (which as far as we know they did not), by the time we meet her Livia has long since defected to Ishgard so they wouldn't know even if that were the case.

    That said they would more than likely have opposed the Knights of the Round had the group hung around for more than 30 minutes or so in-universe. May have been a part of the Ascians' plans... but there's no way to know for sure.
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    Noel Maimhov
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    just remembered a small detail about our masked mystery man. It seems like the assets for his dress are already in game, since I've seen some pictures the other day of someone who *cough* data mined it *cough*. Turns out he's wearing a cape with the crest of Ala Mhigo (white griffin holding a turquoise greatsword on purple back) on its back.
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    Alberel Lindurst
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    Quote Originally Posted by swiss_Momo View Post
    just remembered a small detail about our masked mystery man. It seems like the assets for his dress are already in game, since I've seen some pictures the other day of someone who *cough* data mined it *cough*. Turns out he's wearing a cape with the crest of Ala Mhigo (white griffin holding a turquoise greatsword on purple back) on its back.
    It's likely that he's either Theodred (the exiled heir to Ala Mhigo) or Ilberd pretending to be Theodred. There was speculation of this long before we saw that outfit but it does indeed lend more weight to both theories. If anything I'll just be glad to finally see that crest in game since it more or less confirms the expansion speculation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    It's likely that he's either Theodred (the exiled heir to Ala Mhigo) or Ilberd pretending to be Theodred. There was speculation of this long before we saw that outfit but it does indeed lend more weight to both theories. If anything I'll just be glad to finally see that crest in game since it more or less confirms the expansion speculation.
    Wait a second, who else is wearing that armor?
    For what I see its something unique. Dont remember anyone else who used something similar.
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    Rocl Montaigne
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    I think he might be referencing the mask? We saw someone pick up the mask in the 3.2 teaser, iirc, but all we saw was a hand. This also took place right after a Yda & Papalymo update so they were clearly connected.
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    Ceasaria Pheonixia
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    Could it be possible the masked guy will introduce a new race like it was the case for Yugiri ?
    Maybe it's a Viera
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