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  1. #111
    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Kosmos Meishou
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerii View Post
    So... basically this text box that pops up when you enable mentor status is lying. Maybe the GM's have to start removing people's mentor status before they actually care.
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    *I'm not a mentor, this image was given to me by one.
    Indeed, if you explicitly set expectations regarding conduct linked to mentor status and people don't meet those expectations, then they really should no longer retain the status conferred on them. If this is not at least partially enforced, it demeans the entire system.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jatoi View Post
    Maybe I just lack faith in people sometimes... I feel this game has to legitimately spoonfeed a certain chunk of it's playerbase to even absorb the simplest of instructions and tasks. Maybe then, DF wouldn't be so terrible.

    There is no "playstyle" argument. There is a right way and a wrong way to do things.
    You're forgetting all the discussions of MSQ questlines and filler quests where people (seemingly) are proud that they ignore all the text in quests and skip through. Apparently the game spoon feeds us, but many ignore the spoons.
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    Last edited by Kosmos992k; 09-09-2016 at 12:33 AM.

  2. #112
    Player Masekase_Hurricane's Avatar
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    You're forgetting all the discussions of MSQ questlines and filler quests where people (seemingly) are proud that they ignore all the text in quests and skip through. Apparently the game spoon feeds us, but many ignore the spoons.
    lol Yes got to love watching people shout where do I go for new Anima step or unlocking dungeon. Yet it either says it you in the update notes or told you during the quest.
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  3. #113
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    ExKage's Avatar
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    Heixin Xiaoshuita
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerii View Post
    In the last boss, players should run near the boss for lightning, away for ice, and to lead the orb away from the party. Range only need to stand as far away as possible.
    To add on to your note, the only notification we know about Ram's and Dragon's voice are the chimera's eyes. When the text on screen says Chimera's eyes turn violet, you have to run to the boss (close to it, melee range). When the text says Chimera's eyes turn blue, they have to run away from Chimera.

    If you run to near max outsides of the arena and Chimera is kept in the middle, you don't need to run into the middle if you're running away from the orb and the Chimera's eyes turn violet. You will be out of range of Dragon's Voice if at the edge of the arena and chimera is left in the middle.
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  4. #114
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    Kerii's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExKage View Post
    To add on to your note, the only notification we know about Ram's and Dragon's voice are the chimera's eyes. When the text on screen says Chimera's eyes turn violet, you have to run to the boss (close to it, melee range). When the text says Chimera's eyes turn blue, they have to run away from Chimera.

    If you run to near max outsides of the arena and Chimera is kept in the middle, you don't need to run into the middle if you're running away from the orb and the Chimera's eyes turn violet. You will be out of range of Dragon's Voice if at the edge of the arena and chimera is left in the middle.
    I can't read that text cue, so that explains that omission. xD I don't think that makes my point any less valid. Even though I haven't ever had that cue, I still got all of the mechanics down without a guide.
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    Last edited by Kerii; 09-09-2016 at 01:34 AM.

  5. #115
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    lulunami's Avatar
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    Guides have their place. However, letting noobs mess up is also part of the learning process into becoming better players. You have to let new players develop intuition to adjust to new and different situations. Good players will be curious on how to improve. Bad players will just be apathetic. That will not change.
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  6. #116
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerii View Post
    I can't read that text cue, so that explains that omission. xD I don't think that makes my point any less valid. Even though I haven't ever had that cue, I still got all of the mechanics down without a guide.
    Interesting. learned it by checking for Ram's voice or Dragon's voice? If not, how do you know when to go in or out without the cast name or the text cue?
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  7. #117
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    Clearing Hall of the Novice should be mandatory to unlock your airship pass.
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  8. #118
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beckett View Post
    Clearing Hall of the Novice should be mandatory to unlock your airship pass.
    WoW had something similar, and it was mandatory for dungeons and whatnot for a bit. Can you guess what happened?

    Players who were too bad to clear it complained they couldn't weigh down parties like lead bricks until Blizzard changed it.
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  9. #119
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExKage View Post
    Interesting. learned it by checking for Ram's voice or Dragon's voice? If not, how do you know when to go in or out without the cast name or the text cue?
    You know... I haven't ever thought about that. I checked against a video or two and those attacks have cast bars. Focus target would make them trivial. I'll remember that.


    Edit: I don't think I really answered your question. I memorized the timings instead of relying on cues. It's the same way I manage enochian in my rotation.
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    Last edited by Kerii; 09-09-2016 at 02:33 AM.

  10. #120
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerii View Post
    You know... I haven't ever thought about that. I checked against a video or two and those attacks have cast bars. Focus target would make them trivial. I'll remember that.
    I almost always focus target the boss XD
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