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    I honestly cant understand why they introduced the raid loot lockout feature when i was under the impression it was supposed to change whether people could re participate(remember first coil locked you out of participation in the previous turns if you cleared, or even so much entered a higher instance with someone whose progress was further) but then the incentive for going back is less loot upon clear or no loot if a couple people have done it before for the week, which would make bringing someone who cleared undesirable at the least, its strange to me as it seems illusory compromise at the least. Ir seems like a very unattractive feature even when introduced as now you can go back and help people with the content sorta
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    Quote Originally Posted by ADVSS View Post
    I honestly cant understand why they introduced the raid loot lockout feature when i was under the impression it was supposed to change whether people could re participate(remember first coil locked you out of participation in the previous turns if you cleared, or even so much entered a higher instance with someone whose progress was further) but then the incentive for going back is less loot upon clear or no loot if a couple people have done it before for the week, which would make bringing someone who cleared undesirable at the least, its strange to me as it seems illusory compromise at the least. Ir seems like a very unattractive feature even when introduced as now you can go back and help people with the content sorta
    I blame that on loot lock out being a thing before raid was introduce. Then to be fair, they stick to the same formula.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ADVSS View Post
    Ir seems like a very unattractive feature even when introduced as now you can go back and help people with the content sorta
    Because if you're struggling to find people who haven't yet cleared it, you may be perfectly happy with 1 or 0 chests when you just want the weekly page. If the restriction was "you can't look if you have your weekly clear" but still had the same number of chests, it would make run selling much more popular (guaranteed 2 drops for the carried).
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    Quote Originally Posted by raela View Post
    Because if you're struggling to find people who haven't yet cleared it, you may be perfectly happy with 1 or 0 chests when you just want the weekly page. If the restriction was "you can't look if you have your weekly clear" but still had the same number of chests, it would make run selling much more popular (guaranteed 2 drops for the carried).
    oh right there is the weekly page too, good point

    unpopular objective argument about raiders only needing raid gear: even raiders dont need raid gear, if you consider the upgrades for tome gear being locked in raid, making them raid gear i level, including now with materia melding and soon pentameldable weapons - i know its an unpopular opinion, but yeah i just dislike that argument that non raiders shouldnt be able to progress at all. Hell. you want the raids to last a little longer, thatd be the way to do so.while progressing through i level like a snail(hope i never see the day)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ADVSS View Post
    I honestly cant understand why they introduced the raid loot lockout feature when i was under the impression it was supposed to change whether people could re participate(remember first coil locked you out of participation in the previous turns if you cleared, or even so much entered a higher instance with someone whose progress was further) but then the incentive for going back is less loot upon clear or no loot if a couple people have done it before for the week, which would make bringing someone who cleared undesirable at the least, its strange to me as it seems illusory compromise at the least.
    You know. There are groups, which are practising a turn without being close to a kill. So someone with a kill ID can fill a missing spot in this group without issues, as this group will not see the loot chests at all.

    For turns they have on farm: For many groups its better to get 1 or 0 chests + the book, before they get nothing at all the week because of missing people.

    With the system we had with coil, both of them were impossible.
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    Last edited by KarstenS; 09-04-2016 at 07:56 AM.

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