Thread: Difficulty format for Normal and Savage will remain in 4.0

Originally Posted by Jynx

Then why have normal mode if you can just "Watch the cutscenes" the "Story is the Reward" is why all the people unable to even play the original coil are grasping so desperately to the story they get.

It feels cheap to watch the cutscenes on youtube because you didn't earn them.

Coil felt accessible to anyone willing to try and earn the story, Savage Alex is a different beast from standard coil at least in my experience.



Let's just take you for your word that "Raiders" are the toxic element of the community. Even then (Which it isn't because people are toxic regardless of skill level) Even if that's the case the so called Toxic community is also the one driving the game forward.

Who buys your crafted gear?
Who buys your farmed materials?
Who buys your consumable items?
Who buys the expensive materia?
Who pushes people to their pinacle in the game?
Who releases the guides you watch on youtube?
Who drives the developers to make sure the game doesn't become cookie clicker 2.0?

The hardcore dedicated long term players are those should drive the game and help guides the communities evolution, even in this baren landscape of XIV devoid of community it's still these types of players who go the extra mile to help others.

Raiders and the like aren't monsters the same way casual players aren't out to ruin the game. Balance in everything, harmony will ensue, but the game is leaning far too heavily towards one crowd and it's making the more dedicated players feel like they have nothing to strive for, no reason to go on.

That's my take on it at least.

No one needs to be a special snowflake, but at the same time this game shouldn't be the equivalent of a participation award where you get rewarded just for showing up.

Absolutely yes. You better elaborated the point I was trying to make earlier. Thanks.

Originally Posted by Musashidon

no one should be a special snowflake but someone should be a special snowflake.

there can never be harmony between the two groups, one wants to be better than the other.

Horse hockey!

For my FC, I am probably one of the more hardcore people in the group. I am often told to seek professional help for how much I do in this game. And that I don't quit.

Do I do it to put them down? Nope
Do I do it to show my superiority over them? Not that one either
Do it to be a special snowflake? Still not correct

I do the things I do because I enjoy a challenge. I enjoy failure.

Let that sink in for a moment.

I...enjoy...failing.

I enjoy learning and mastering things as much as I can. Failing causes that to happen.

Mashing 1-2-3 while watching Netflix doing easy content all the time? I might as well take a nap. I'll learn the same amount.

I enjoy setting different kinds of goals and chasing them down until I achieve them. Some are easy and some are a challenge.

I help people clear content and do things with them because I enjoy their company. Not out of some superiority complex.

Here is a question for you:

When was the last time you took a new player through the Praetorium or Castrum and did the following:
1) Let them watch all the cutscenes?
2) Let them fully participate in all of the fights?
3) Do it at level 50 synced?
4) Do it at minimum ilvl (i42)?

I do that when I am available.

When someone needs something melded or crafted, I do that as well. I do it for free.

Someone puts into Novice Network that their run has blown up and they need help, I do that too.

I do not need to be better than others.

I do need to be the best I can.

I don't know what caused you to feel the way you do. I do hope that one day you open your eyes and see certain types of people are not all as bad as you think they are.

Originally Posted by Istaru

I don't know what caused you to feel the way you do. I do hope that one day you open your eyes and see certain types of people are not all as bad as you think they are.

i never said raiders can't be helpful but harmony as a whole? no, as people has stated if the challenge of the end game raid was all that was needed then there would be no issues because who cares about gear right?

there are toxic players on both sides be it casual or hardcore, but that has nothing to do with my statement.

my statement is about one player base feeling they deserve to be better than the other and won't accept it any other way *i need a higher ilvl than you to show you i did this or else it's pointless to do*

heck there were suggestions for titles, minions, mounts, but the only one that truely matters is ilvl *showing off the better equipment*

Originally Posted by Musashidon

no one should be a special snowflake but someone should be a special snowflake.

there can never be harmony between the two groups, one wants to be better than the other.

risk vs reward, this game has no clue of that concept. That's the problem.

Originally Posted by Musashidon

i never said raiders can't be helpful but harmony as a whole? no, as people has stated if the challenge of the end game raid was all that was needed then there would be no issues because who cares about gear right?

there are toxic players on both sides be it casual or hardcore, but that has nothing to do with my statement.

my statement is about one player base feeling they deserve to be better than the other and won't accept it any other way *i need a higher ilvl than you to show you i did this or else it's pointless to do*

heck there were suggestions for titles, minions, mounts, but the only one that truely matters is ilvl *showing off the better equipment*

At the end of the day, many raiders care way more about performance, not some cheap vanity frills that are subject to subjective taste. Why do you care if a raider has gear 10 ilvls higher than you? How does that impact your game play? For a raider, they will take that extra 10 ilvls into the next raid tier, there is a purpose for that difference.

Why does it matter to you so much that you get equal gear for much less effort?

Originally Posted by Musashidon

why does it matter your gear is better when you don't need it? you don't need that extra 10ilvls to do that raid or the next raid.

why does it matter to you that everyone gets the same lvl of gear for less effort?

I already explained why. You don't get to discredit a point by answering a question with a question, don't be juvenile. Raiders in a normal game, such as wow, take that ilvl difference into the next raid. It's a perk for staying around and farming the raid after getting your first clear. You farm a BiS set for the next raid tier. I want to perform better for being subscribed for six months. As it stands now, all skill equal, a player returning for 3.4 will have the same performance capabilities as a person who stayed behind and farmed midas savage for the last six months.

So, I will asking you again, and please answer with a statement rather than a questions, why does it matter to you?