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  1. #121
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    Quote Originally Posted by LadyVal View Post
    You obviously don't work in fashion or any other field where you regularly, publicly display your work. If you saw any of the mannequins I've ever dressed in my career, or outfits I picked for others, you would have an opinion about them, whether you could create better looks or not. Everyone does. That's how people work. You don't need to make the salary I do to judge my work when you see it just like nobody here needs to be able to design a "better tank armor" to judge the winning look when they see it.
    That was an issue I had because the person in question thought they knew better than the judging group, so for the fact that they thought better, I wanted to know if they had anything better. You can have an opinion, but when an opinion has no backbone, I cannot take that as valid criticism or judgement of a design. It's preposterous to just take a glance, then just say it's boring, and end it at that.
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  2. #122
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schneehase View Post
    yeah, I believe to u too that your entry have nothing to do with the Phantasy Star Series...I mean, it's a pure coincidence that the pose from both char's r similar
    You forgot to mentioned one thing: I shared my body template 2 months ago. Its coincidence you come now with that xD

    And btw: Who cares about the pose? Its a design contest, not a pose contest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
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    It's not "knowing better" to have a different opinion... I too think the winning entry is a bit boring considering this was a rare opportunity to add something to the game that doesn't look like armor we already have, and thus I disagree with the judging team. It is what I personally think, and in no way am I or anyone else saying anything bad about the judges. Read more than just this one reply you replied to, there have been enough people stating exactly why so many think the winner looks boring, it is not nessecairy to state it again this many times, and if you still have a problem with that, adress that and not the fact that they did not draw a finalist themselves.
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  4. #124
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    You can have an opinion, but when an opinion has no backbone, I cannot take that as valid criticism or judgement of a design. It's preposterous to just take a glance, then just say it's boring, and end it at that.
    Well, a simple opinion is still an opinion. I find the winning design boring because it's just a recolored silhouette of the HA Coat of Fending. I personally think designing new Allagan gear could have gone so many ways- you could have had exaggerated shoulders, or had some kind of glowing bodysuit with larges pieces of plate mail attached, or added pulsing tubing/wiring so that it looks like you can see the aether powering the armor; I feel there are many more ways the designer could have been creative when using Allagan technology. And, really, as far as innovation and creativity goes compared to the other entrants, this one feels the most flat. It's not inspired enough to be exciting, it has so many borrowed ideas that I feel like I've already seen it.

    But then again I know I couldn't design a better set of armor overall because designing armor/plate mail is not my forte. I just know that compared to things I've already seen in this game, and just saw in the contest, my opinion is that the winning look is boring. And just thinking about it, this is probably the kind of opinion you were looking for in the first place. XD
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  5. #125
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    Grats to the winner!!!

    1 contest could never satisfy the majority anyway, we all have such unique tastes.

    They would need hundreds of contests.

    I still prefer tera styled gear over all games tbh ..the flow of the fabrics, the realistic textures, the way light reflects off of sequins and glittery materials, fur trims that flow like real fur does omg just beautiful. they are utterly gorgeous!! way ahead of ffxiv in that regard.

    Here we get too much clipping, a lot of copy paste with flared stiff panels at the side of most gear...very predictable sadly
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  6. #126
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schneehase View Post





    yeah, I believe u too that your entry have nothing to do with the Phantasy Star Series...I mean, it's a pure coincidence that the pose from both char's r similar
    Quote Originally Posted by Caitlyn View Post
    You forgot to mentioned one thing: I shared my body template 2 months ago. Its coincidence you come now with that xD

    And btw: Who cares about the pose? Its a design contest, not a pose contest.
    I have no clue about Phantasy Star Series... Just google it to know what you guys r talking about ....
    and found this pic, that shows me, that your entry have to deal with this game? Just wondering why u said it doesn't..but hey u win!
    Nothing else matters..or? o.O?? xDD

    And yeah u r right, it was a design contest ...who cares about the similar pose or some similar details? ... ^_________^/ like SagaSoluna said....

    Quote Originally Posted by SagaSoluna View Post
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    But this was meant to be a contest about creating a set of tank armor, so taking an existing PSO2 set, with a couple diff accessories, recoloring it, and giving it a few extra lines, does not really seem a fair thing to do.
    And i am surprised it even arrived as far as it did, given that.
    ....

    Caitlyn, u r one of the lucky winner, congratz to your work and to all winner!
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    Last edited by Schneehase; 08-29-2016 at 10:38 PM.

  7. #127
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nep_Nep View Post
    Sign me up also, i really like that one
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  8. #128
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caitlyn View Post
    Oh... and btw: Its nearly impossible to create a completely "new" tank gear, because any gearset could look similiar to existing designs from the same or other games. When it doesnt like FFXIV or PSO2, it will definitely look like a copy from Aion, Tera, WoW, Blade and Soul or [insert random F2P MMORPG here] ; )

    It is not nearly impossible to create a completely "new" Tank Gear...
    When I look at the other Gear sets, they do not look like a copy immediately recognizable.

    As PSO2 player you can clearly see the inspiration, there is a lack of creativity!

    Look at the Gobbue Gear, of which gear it has brought the inspiration?



    Congratulation to all the Winner! (:
    Very many beautiful concepts :3
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  9. #129
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    Quote Originally Posted by FainMabuja View Post
    It is not nearly impossible to create a completely "new" Tank Gear...
    When I look at the other Gear sets, they do not look like a copy immediately recognizable.

    As PSO2 player you can clearly see the inspiration, there is a lack of creativity!

    Look at the Gobbue Gear, of which gear it has brought the inspiration?



    Congratulation to all the Winner! (:
    Very many beautiful concepts :3
    Then you just have a bias opinion and it is unfair to say they have a lack of creativity. So where is your design?

    I could give you multiple examples with that frame of mind.

    Allagan Sets


    Monster Hunter


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    Last edited by Genaxx; 08-30-2016 at 06:07 PM.

  10. #130
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genaxx View Post
    So where is your design?
    One does not need to be able to create something to criticize it. Can you create gear and compare it to the gear that you both like and dislike? Can you cook better food than you've had at restaurants? Can you fabricate better clothing than what you see when you shop? Can you build a better car than cars you dislike? Chances are you can't, yet you still have opinions about things every day that you can't do better. So there is no sense in telling someone they aren't entitled to an opinion because they can't do better, because everybody does it every day.

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