Unofficial Census 2016 for FFXIV

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Come on, we literally went over this last night.

• Mythic has many exclusive rewards and does not have higher participation rates than Savage.
• Heroic does not have exclusive rewards and does have significantly higher participation rates than Savage.

If you're not able to look at those two pieces of information and infer that the lack of exclusive rewards isn't what's keeping people from raiding Savage, you're simply not approaching the issue logically.

Mythic and Heroic do have exclusive rewards from Normal. Titles, mounts, special quests, etc are rewarded to both Heroic and Mythic. Why do you want raiders to feel short changed in this game? Why can a 13 yr old dinosaur of a game reward raiders and this glorified dumpster fire can't?

We have people saying on the forums that raid rewards are not worth it. It's their opinion and it's not up for debate. They have a point when you look at what heroic/mythic raids provide players in wow. I feel the rewards are not worth it and you can contrast savage with mythic/heroic for that purpose. FFXIV raiders are treated like absolute garbage.

I have replaced some of the most talented players I have ever had on my roster over how poorly raiders are rewarded in this game. You are simply taking two stats and saying that since they are the same, that rewards have nothing to do with the poor participation rates. Correlation does not equal causation here bud. I only speak from the players that post here and the players I have seen leave this game, the raid rewards are very poor and savage requires and exceptional amount of effort.

Like I keep telling people here, this game is going LotRO status fast, it will be a joke MMO by the next expansion. It's not my problem buddy, keep defending the dumpster fire, the reward structure of this game will keep people subbed for ever!!!! /s