Power-leveling is absolutely BROKEN

[Zenaku]

I still don't get why anyone cares. The only thing being ruined here is people's sense of self-worth.

Not really if new players join and they can't find a party how would they get level up soloing? or pay for powerlevel? you can't have a game from start be a powerlevel fest maybe 5-8 years down the road. You could add EXP rings, other means of leveling up that does not make players sit there afk do noting and get max level. For that why don't they just give us 1 free max level from day 1.

[EmeraldHill]

Not really if new players join and they can't find a party how would they get level up soloing? or pay for powerlevel? you can't have a game from start be a powerlevel fest maybe 5-8 years down the road. You could add EXP rings, other means of leveling up that does not make players sit there afk do noting and get max level. For that why don't they just give us 1 free max level from day 1.

Paying for PL? The community here is far too nice for that. LS's eat up new players and nurse them into strong flapperbooters.

When there is an actual influx of new players then people will have more players to party with. Right now, the game is still in "FFXIV? THAT GAME SUX LOL" status with the majority of the gamerbase. Add that in with the game not having any official means of digital download and you have a low new player influx.

Leveling should be long enough to learn your class but short enough as to now overstay it's welcome.

[Zenaku]

Paying for PL? The community here is far too nice for that. LS's eat up new players and nurse them into strong flapperbooters.

When there is an actual influx of new players then people will have more players to party with. Right now, the game is still in "FFXIV? THAT GAME SUX LOL" status with the majority of the gamerbase. Add that in with the game not having any official means of digital download and you have a low new player influx.

before 1.18 i got 33-44 lancer by partying 36-50 pug partying try to do that now? everyone is powerlevel and doing stronghold. You can powerlevel someone to 1-35ish then take them to the stronghold and they get over 1+k exp.

There is a big influx of new players on my server most of them solo and most of them being powerlevel i saw a full party of low level 22-34 being powerlevel by a 50conj by the NM that drop pld legs.

In other room there was 1 person powerlevel someone else then 2-3 other people who are 50 powerlevel 3 players. Why would people make party if you can be PL ? sadly this is a issue you can't have everyone reach 50 within the first few days of there game life.

I would love to have more players around my level but at the end it would mess up the game.

[options]

before 1.18 i got 33-44 lancer by partying 36-50 pug partying try to do that now? everyone is powerlevel and doing stronghold. You can powerlevel someone to 1-35ish then take them to the stronghold and they get over 1+k exp.

There is a big influx of new players on my server most of them solo and most of them being powerlevel i saw a full party of low level 22-34 being powerlevel by a 50conj by the NM that drop pld legs.

In other room there was 1 person powerlevel someone else then 2-3 other people who are 50 powerlevel 3 players. Why would people make party if you can be PL ? sadly this is a issue you can't have everyone reach 50 within the first few days of there game life.

I would love to have more players around my level but at the end it would mess up the game.

You know you could make an ls thats pt only, no powerleveling, wear sexy lingerie at night, whatever your heart desires. And recruit people that has those interests. You don't need to make the game to be pt only. Just create an ls. Same way casuals can make their ls, endgame can have their ls, wow style jump can have their ls.

Just a suggestion

[Zenaku]

You know you could make an ls thats pt only, no powerleveling, wear sexy lingerie at night, whatever your heart desires. And recruit people that has those interests. You don't need to make the game to be pt only. Just create an ls. Same way casuals can make their ls, endgame can have their ls, wow style jump can have their ls.

Just a suggestion

Ya that sound good but when everyone find out that pl is faster they would only want that way. Sorry but once again it break the game you can't have everyone who join the game get 50 within 3-4days of gameplay. Or even if it take 1week for a casual it still not ok and it break the game.

[Vahzl]

Ya that sound good but when everyone find out that pl is faster they would only want that way. Sorry but once again it break the game you can't have everyone who join the game get 50 within 3-4days of gameplay. Or even if it take 1week for a casual it still not ok and it break the game.

This is where the infinite loop seems to arise, as still no one has given a valid reason as to how this breaks the game, and please don't bother replying with the same post you keep making, as this conversation has circled round and round since page 3 of this thread.

I just do not see how people power levelling is affecting your gameplay.

[Zenaku]

This is where the infinite loop seems to arise, as still no one has given a valid reason as to how this breaks the game, and please don't bother replying with the same post you keep making, as this conversation has circled round and round since page 3 of this thread.

I just do not see how people power levelling is affecting your gameplay.

Since people don't understand how game balance works here you go:

reasons why Abrupt leveling kills MMOs:

1: Economy: This hugely affects the economy because PLing your classes will not require you to gear your self until late game. So what happens to all the gear LV1-40 in the markets? It sits right there. Crafters and people who farm mats for gils will definitely feel the backlash from this. If you have any sense of analytical and observation skills you can look into the future of what downward spiral the economy will go into if the PL scenario worsens.

2: Server Character Level Distribution: New players will later find it hard to make and find group later down the line when people start to have multiple 50s and start the ever popular end game grind for gear. The content created by the devs for LV1-40 will be completely destroyed like it was in FFXI in Abyssea (might not be correct spelling) and will turn this game into another type of grindfest... the endgame grindfest.

3. Promotion of the lack of In-Game knowledge: This sounds fun doesn't it?! Lets not have no clue what we are doing, let alone what types of abilities are viable in class builds and end-game setups. Why can't these things be taught through player experiences and strife? That is the true way to stimulate sense of accomplishment!

4. Veteran Buzz-Kill = Loss players: Lets observe a real-life scenario. Let's say you worked intensely hard at a job and finally earned a promotion after 12 years of dedicated service. Then next week a new hire is suddenly jolted to your rank after 3 months. We saw this in FFXI and no one can't argue that the server population didn't suffer from it. Come on SE! don't you learn your lesson!? How would the current vets feel about this nonsense? Think before you post, please...

and i'm sure there more reason you can dig up for yourself maybe you just don't want to see it for yourself.

[Raikki]

Ya that sound good but when everyone find out that pl is faster they would only want that way.

Your argument is that everyone should be forced to level up the way you want them to or nobody will play with you.

I'm guessing that your hypothetical situation goes like this:

Player: Can anyone help me level up THF? (note: in all my fantasies THF is in the game)
You: Sure I have a class around your level! Let's PT!
Player: OK, but is anyone available to PL us? I'm anxious to get <dungeon access/cool higher level ability/whatever> as soon as possible.
You: I was actually hoping to level normally.
Player: Oh, well nevermind, I can wait for a PL later.

Maybe "Player" is kind of a tool or maybe "Player" just wants to get his THF leveled fast and doesn't want to grind for it like you do. In your ideal version of a no-powerleveling world, Player would just accept that he has to grind for a few months for <dungeon access/cool higher level ability/whatever> and suddenly be happy about it and have a grand time leveling with you. In the real world, Player has a high probability of quitting or simply never gets THF leveled up. If he does actually level up, he probably doesn't have much fun. Should Player just leave our sacred grinding game and let us grind in peace? That's up for debate, but I'm sure my position is obvious.