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    Quote Originally Posted by Moqi View Post

    There are RPGs with no levels and RPGs where you can buy a maxed out character/ability and still have plenty of stuff to do.


    Don't run your mouth if you have no understanding of what I am saying.

    Ya'll care way too much about what people like to do with their free time. A handful of your own business never hurt anybody.

    Anyway, my post was for SE to read, not other players who have no power over the game. If I'll add some stuff if I remember.
    1) Yes, but this isnt an RPG without levels - if you want that: Play one of them?

    2) I dont care how someone is spending their free time - as long as it doesnt hurt how I like spending mine. As we explained to you, buying your way through the game would affect the game as a whole system, lock people out of groups because they dont like to spend real money on gear, take the feeling of "progress" away, crush the market and ruin gathering and crafting - we can argue about those systems being optimal as they are right now but just destroying them isnt a good fix, wouldnt you agree?

    3) Well, your post was to give your feedback, right? We are doing the same here - by telling SE that some of your suggestions are not welcome. Not that they wouldnt know that themself, I hope... if you say we have no power over the game, the same goes for you, so why bother posting? We all have some sort of power by giving our feedback and thats why I'm speaking up here: I dont like some of your suggestiongs and as much as you want SE to know that you would like to buy your way to level 60 I want them to know that thats a really, really bad idea that some people do NOT like. So, please... if you cant defend your point, dont just tell those who disagree with you and argue for that to shut up...
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  2. #32
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    1) Yes, but this isnt an RPG without levels - if you want that: Play one of them?
    I never said that. Read my posts before you try to reply to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moqi View Post
    I don't know because I would not buy gil or tomestones. But I don't have to know or care either. People who do find it fun have their reasons.
    You are clearly oblivious to the fact that this would affect you and other players massively whether they bought them or not.

    You failed to quote the part where I said the market would crash and people would have max level gear after a patch was released.

    Good luck finding a group to raid with when you're still in 230 gear and the people buying tomes already have BiS and max melded gear. You need to think again if you think anyone will find a group if they're not maxed, regardless of how many other people aren't. Its hard enough to find a group as it is.

    Good luck with your roulette queue times because half of the player base no longer needs it.

    Good luck trying to buy glamours and the majority of crafted items because most crafters no longer need the gil and have no incentive to make certain items anymore.

    Get your head out of the clouds.
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    Last edited by WinterLuna; 08-13-2016 at 03:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moqi View Post
    I never said that. Read my posts before you try to reply to me.
    You seem to complain about how this game isnt build around not-leveling/doing stuff to level up and how levels should be something you can buy your way through because you dont wanna bother with them... so maybe... you should read your own posts more carefully or word them more carefully?

    I'm still eager to hear what it is that you (used to) enjoy about this game btw since you want to buy your way around most of the content...
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  5. #35
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    Good luck finding a group to raid with when you're still in 230 gear and the people buying tomes already have BiS and max melded gear.
    I never bought crafted gear to raid and always found a group. Those people group with themselves. There already ARE people with the best gear available and people who do not, and both groups raid.
    Good luck with your roulette queue times because half of the player Base no longer needs it.
    There are other ways to get them.
    Good luck trying to buy glamours and the majority of crafted items because most crafters no longer need the gil and have no incentive to make certain items anymore.
    I started buying glamour when I dropped crafting because it had become too tedious. You failed to quote the rest of my posts where I suggested they need to drop all this lockout and rng nonsense. If drop rates on mats were decent, I'd make everything myself like I was before 2*. And I'd have no problem making it for friends who asked either, even for free, like I always have done.

    It's funny that you are assuming that if SE started gil and tomestones, half the playerbase would buy them and stop doing what they're doing now. If they were having fun crafting and doing roulettes, why would they not still do them? If they are, they'd keep doing it. Or maybe they are not....
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    Last edited by Moqi; 08-13-2016 at 04:04 AM.

  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moqi View Post
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    Your responses are always 'I did this.. I never did that', maybe this game doesn't revolve around you and what you personally would and wouldn't do if your suggestion was implemented?
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    It's a thread I opened about my suggestions for the game so I don't know why you expected to read anything other than what I do and don't do. Maybe you should go elsewhere if you want to read one that doesn't revolve around my my experience. Unlike some of you, I don't speak for anyone else but me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moqi View Post
    It's a thread I opened about my suggestions for the game so I don't know why you expected to read anything other than what I do and don't do. Maybe you should go elsewhere if you want to read one that doesn't revolve around my my experience.
    When you make a suggestion you kind of have to take the rest of the player base into consideration. I thought that was obvious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moqi View Post
    I started buying glamour when I dropped crafting because it had become too tedious. You failed to quote the rest of my posts where I suggested they need to drop all this lockout and rng nonsense. If drop rates on mats were decent, I'd make everything myself like I was before 2*.

    It's funny that you are assuming that if SE started gil and tomestones, half the playerbase would buy them and stop doing what they're doing now. If they were having fun crafting and doing roulettes, why would they not still do them? If they are, they'd keep doing it. Or maybe they are not....
    ...I will tell you again, since you dont seem to have been reading this: They need to keep lockouts and RNG because otherwise they simply cant release enough content to keep us busy. Okay, you dont want to be kept busy. You dont want to log in every day. You probably dont want to pay a sub every month - oh... oh... yeah, okay...

    Half the fun comes from getting your reward, wouldnt you say? We need this carrot - why should I run the same dungeon more than once when there isnt any reward to it?
    I'm not crafting because pressing a few buttons is fun - I'm crafting because for me its fun to provide other people with gear and items. Some items are "fun" and valuable because not everyone and their mom can just get them so WHEN you finally earn them they're something special that not everyone has glamoured.

    And I dont what you're talking about "drop rates not being decent"? They totally "fixed" the favour system (as in: making this stuff drop from Aqua etc.). I've been crafting all the time - and yes, sometimes it sucks. But you gave up as soon as it got a little harder... I remember that one friend who wanted the Kirimu coat and I offered to buy the mats for it but he instisted on earning them himself because he wanted this feeling of "earning it himself"

    A game, specially an MMO, isnt only about always having a fun and happy time - sometimes you just get a reward for hanging in there and putting a little work and effort into it... and that whats making those rewards feel so good and special
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    You're the one upset that my opinions on the game revolve around my experiences. I thought that much was obvious and yet here you are, complaining.

    I also don't have to take into consideration any of you, because my suggestions are not direct to you. If you wanna butt in and share your thoughts you're free to, but you're not the target audience. That much should have been obvious too. It's not all about you, you know?
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