Do YOU think we'll get a new Tank and/or Healer in 4.0? And vice versa.

[Vexander]

Red Mage: (Tank) Ideally, I think this would only work as a tank. The White Mage, Black Mage, and Red Mage represent an ancient trinity in the Final Fantasy franchise. FFXIV has a trinity as well, the Gaming Trinity of the Tank, Healer, and Damage Dealer. As White Mage and Black Mage fit well into two of those roles, Red Mage would be left the role of a Tank. How does a Red Mage tank? Using iconic Red Mage abilities. The en-element spells to generate aggro and inflict status conditions upon enemies. Abilities like Phalanx to reduce damage, Blink to increase evasion, lengthy self-heal buffs to increase survivability, etc... With heavy reliance upon Parry as a form of damage mitigation, much as Blocking exists for Paladin. Its not ideal and doesn't fit the Red Mage thematic 100%, but it's the best we can hope for.

Blue Mage: (DPS) I can't really see this as anything other than a DPS to be honest. It certainly has some utility in other games, and it can bring utility to FFXIV, but in the gaming trinity, it'd fall into a DPS more than a Healer or a Tank.

Samurai: (DPS) I don't see this being anything other than a DPS given Yoshi P's comments. That, and I'd like to see another armored DPS like Dragoon.

Dancer: (Healer) A melee, DoW healer would be a refreshing change of pace, especially if we get a DoM tank in the Red Mage. Using combo's and perhaps abilities which place debuffs on enemies which heal party members who strike said enemy.

Beastmaster: (DPS) A melee DPS for certain. Ever since I saw those tigers added, I've been wondering when they'd add this class. It'd be interesting to see a Whip as a weapon as well. Sort of the DoW version of a Summoner, I imagine. A melee, dot-laying DPS with a pet.

[Fevelle]

How does a Red Mage tank? Using iconic Red Mage abilities. The en-element spells to generate aggro and inflict status conditions upon enemies. Abilities like Phalanx to reduce damage, Blink to increase evasion, lengthy self-heal buffs to increase survivability, etc... .

Only problem is that Phalanx is not iconic, Dualcast is, En-elements and Magic Sword are from Mystic Knight. If the community wants a tank with Magic blade spells, magical cooldowns and self-heals/barrier cooldowns they should ask for Mystic Knight and not Red Mage.

I can only wait and see how much the FFXIV dev team will destroy the RDM personality to put it into the game...

[ADVSS]

Only problem is that Phalanx is not iconic, Dualcast is, En-elements and Magic Sword are from Mystic Knight. If the community wants a tank with Magic blade spells, magical cooldowns and self-heals/barrier cooldowns they should ask for Mystic Knight and not Red Mage.

I can only wait and see how much the FFXIV dev team will destroy the RDM personality to put it into the game...

yea most of the rdm tank ideas are just making mystic knight tank, which i am OK with. I want both in the game, so id rather RDM not take away Mystic Knight and be that tank

[Fevelle]

yea most of the rdm tank ideas are just making mystic knight tank, which i am OK with. I want both in the game, so id rather RDM not take away Mystic Knight and be that tank

I can say I would love to wear the Mystic Knight's iconic FFV armor on my character.

[Vexander]

Only problem is that Phalanx is not iconic, Dualcast is, En-elements and Magic Sword are from Mystic Knight. If the community wants a tank with Magic blade spells, magical cooldowns and self-heals/barrier cooldowns they should ask for Mystic Knight and not Red Mage.

I can only wait and see how much the FFXIV dev team will destroy the RDM personality to put it into the game...

I was mostly going off my experiences in FFXI, in which those were iconic Red Mage spells. That said, Mystic Knight seems like it would be too close to Paladin or Dark Knight to successfully get into the game at this point. I'd be happy seeing Red Mage fill the spot and use it's, "Jack of all Trade's," theme toward the goal of tanking. The original Red Mage healed and DPS'd, if I'm remembering the first Final Fantasy game right. It seems to me that's a great way to generate threat and survive when taking damage. It bends these aspects of the Red Mage toward a single goal, which was ever the strength of the class. The only difference is, in FFXIV, the end goal is pre-determined by the role system, rather than the player's playstyle. We sacrifice the player's ability to choose in this case, but it's not like we haven't done that with existing classes anyways.

[ADVSS]

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yea the new tank thing would be hard to do, but mystic knight could fit, though it had mostly debiffs and damage dealing sword enhancements. I like the idea of a sleep sword or stun sword, things i see a tank could use for both pvp and pve. Much like this iteration of DRK though, i slightly agree, except the en-spells definitely would be a mystic knight(Rune fencer you might recognize from 11) because red mage is so popular, like dark knight they COULD do what they did with drk and make it a tank so more people will play it, but i dont want this to be a repeat. I can also see SAM being either a tank or dps and the same rule would apply. as i see it if both are implemented and have to have 1 be a tank id take sam over rdm. then again, looking at palace of the dead which besides being what it is, i think theyre watching results of different party comps and i also swear DRG is a tank whenever i enter potd.

[Imoen]

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Really?

I could see both Red and Blue mage fitting into any of the 3 rolls.

No matter what they put them into, I hope they force RDM on the front line.