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    Quote Originally Posted by Zigabar View Post
    Buy CS item > Sell on MB > Use money to buy clear/runs > Get dropped gear > P2W
    It's not p2w if it doesn't come directly from shop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cakekizyy View Post
    It's not p2w if it doesn't come directly from shop.
    Now you're playing with semantics. Indirect, maybe, but a perfectly legal P2W process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cakekizyy View Post
    It's not p2w if it doesn't come directly from shop.
    This is just semantics at this point. If someone can spend $100 on the CS and turn it into in-game currency, that is P2W IMO.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zigabar View Post
    Now you're playing with semantics. Indirect, maybe, but a perfectly legal P2W process.
    lol, guess we had the same thought. Didn't see this until after mine posted :X
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    Except it's not P2W because anything sold on the Mog Station is untradable, and if it is, SE already has rules and policies in place that attempt to stop them. (I say attempt because people don't listen...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    Except it's not P2W because anything sold on the Mog Station is untradable, and if it is, SE already has rules and policies in place that attempt to stop them. (I say attempt because people don't listen...)

    Which leads us to the original comment that started this tangent:

    Quote Originally Posted by KitingGenbu View Post
    I'd honestly think the cash shop would pull in even more money if they let you directly sell all the items on the marketboard versus the gifting thing. People complaining about the cash shop would honestly just support it if they could get the items with gil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    Which leads us to the original comment that started this tangent:
    F2P MMOs work that way, which is why most of the content in the first place is only vanity/glamour, on top of that, automatically has untradeable and such attached to it. People can always just trade a code for gil, but that's against ToS as I've already mentioned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    F2P MMOs work that way, which is why most of the content in the first place is only vanity/glamour, on top of that, automatically has untradeable and such attached to it. People can always just trade a code for gil, but that's against ToS as I've already mentioned.
    Currently, yes, things cannot be sold. Someone had made the comment that SE would make more money from the CS if we could just sell the items in game directly vs. having to gift them through mogstation. This spawned the discussion on P2W in this game. All groovy now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    Currently, yes, things cannot be sold. Someone had made the comment that SE would make more money from the CS if we could just sell the items in game directly vs. having to gift them through mogstation. This spawned the discussion on P2W in this game. All groovy now?
    I get that, but I'm saying it's pointless. F2P MMOs work that way, is this a F2P MMO? No. We groovy now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    This is just semantics at this point. If someone can spend $100 on the CS and turn it into in-game currency, that is P2W IMO.
    Except gil in this game doesn't really have any real value except for epeen stroking, but that a totally different topic.
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